澳洲的路不通了，加拿大似乎还可以啊

tryimm

昨天VIC州担保被拒，通向澳洲的路基本都封了，花了半个上午看了加拿大的移民要求，似乎还可以：
1、语言要求宽松，尤其是不需要4*6，像我2个7,2个5.5也能得到12分。
2、年龄小于49似乎都是10分。
3、配偶加分只看学历。
4、工作经验只要累计4年，10年内。
5、专业有38个大方向可以选择。（修改：好像IT工程师是不行，如果做过技术管理的事，应该可以）

做了一下自评分，73分，及格67分。

不知道各位有什么不同意见，多加指导！
BTW：
http://www.canadameet.com/版面没有freeoz看得舒服。

[ 本帖最后由 tryimm 于 22-5-2010 19:19 编辑 ]

keving

ＩＴ只要ＩＴ经理吧...工程师不行吧

xiaoxiaobull

嗯，之前我也听说只要经理才行的。

麦迪逊

移澳洲，配偶怎么算分啊

tryimm

不好意思看错了，我以为是加拿大呢。
移民澳洲，对配偶加分的要求比较高，要有职业评估之类的，雅思5.5以上等。

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tryimm

•Accommodation Service Managers
•Audiologists and Speech Language Pathologists
•College and Other Vocational Instructors
•Chefs
•Computer and Information Systems Managers
•Cooks
•Construction Managers
•Contractors and Supervisors, Pipe Fitting Trades
•Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
•Contractors and Supervisors, Heavy Construction Equipment Crews
•Crane Operators
•Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction
•Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)
•Financial Auditors and Accountants
•Financial Managers
•General Practitioners and Family Physicians
•Geological Engineers
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•Licensed Practical Nurses
•Managers in Health Care
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•Registered Nurses
•Restaurant and Food Service Managers
•Specialist Physicians
•Steamfitters, Pipe Fitters and Sprinkler System Installers
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•Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
•Supervisors, Petroleum, Gas and Chemical Processing and Utilities
•University Professors
•Welders and Related Machine Operators

tryimm

Computer and information systems managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the activities of organizations that analyze, design, develop, implement, operate and administer computer and telecommunications software, networks and information systems. They are employed throughout the public and private sectors.


Example Titles
EDP (electronic data processing) manager
computer systems manager
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Main duties
Computer and information systems managers perform some or all of the following duties:
•lan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of information systems and electronic data processing (EDP) departments and companies
•Develop and implement policies and procedures for electronic data processing and computer systems operations and development
•Meet with clients to discuss system requirements, specifications, costs and timelines
•Assemble and manage teams of information systems personnel to design, develop, implement, operate and administer computer and telecommunications software, networks and information systems
•Control the budget and expenditures of the department, company or project
•Recruit and supervise computer analysts, engineers, programmers, technicians and other personnel and oversee their professional development and training.
Employment requirements
•A bachelor's or master's degree in computer science, business administration, commerce or engineering is usually required.
•Several years of experience in systems analysis, data administration, software engineering, network design or computer programming, including supervisory experience, are required.

tryimm

communication systems design manager
computer and related services manager
computer applications manager
computer department co-ordinator
computer development division head
computer facility manager
computer manager
computer networks manager
computer programs manager
computer projects manager
computer software design manager
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tryimm

这么多岗位名称，总能找到一个适合IT工程师的吧，比较大家都不可能仅仅是个coder，只要负责项目管理，项目负责人都能靠上边吧。

大家讨论一下，看看能否找到出路。

hagrid

加拿大IT只要manager

tryimm

project manager  算不算？

tryimm

Main duties
Computer and information systems managers perform some or all of the following duties:
•lan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of information systems and electronic data processing (EDP) departments and companies
•Develop and implement policies and procedures for electronic data processing and computer systems operations and development
•Meet with clients to discuss system requirements, specifications, costs and timelines
•Assemble and manage teams of information systems personnel to design, develop, implement, operate and administer computer and telecommunications software, networks and information systems
•Control the budget and expenditures of the department, company or project
•Recruit and supervise computer analysts, engineers, programmers, technicians and other personnel and oversee their professional development and training.

hagrid

原帖由 tryimm 于 22-5-2010 17:03 发表

                               
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project manager  算不算？

你上面贴的那些title里没有project manager

tryimm

怎么是乱码？

请看：http://www.freeoz.org/bbs/viewth ... =%BC%D3%C4%C3%B4%F3

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tryimm

根据Main duties的描述，没有说一定要是部门经理啊，我的理解，只要你做了Main duties的事情了，就算技术经理。

revstar

原帖由 tryimm 于 22-5-2010 19:16 发表

                               
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根据Main duties的描述，没有说一定要是部门经理啊，我的理解，只要你做了Main duties的事情了，就算技术经理。

至少需要title里面有manager这个单词，中介跟我说的。部门经理比较稳当

ubuntuhk

原帖由 tryimm 于 22-5-2010 18:34 发表

                               
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昨天VIC州担保被拒，通向澳洲的路基本都封了，花了半个上午看了加拿大的移民要求，似乎还可以：
1、语言要求宽松，尤其是不需要4*6，像我2个7,2个5.5也能得到12分。
2、年龄小于49似乎都是10分。
3、配偶加分只看 ...

适合就行动吧，07年我是满足不了CA的要求，那时候OZ的要求比较低，而且也适合我，所以从canadameet转到freeoz，现在oz的门槛高了很多，如果发现自己适合CA，那就赶紧行动吧。

tryimm

谢谢鼓励。
我再研究研究，把我的经历包装包装估计问题不大。
部门经理做的不就是那些事情吗，任务分配、跟踪监督、协调开会、招人、绩效考核、裁人，……
再了解一些贝雕的事情。

dfer

关键在于如何理解这个manager, 因为很多title里有manager的是不管人的, 只管产品或项目, 比如solution manager, product manager, project manager.

看怎么理解了...

wolf

manager不manager    就靠你的包装

JXYZY

上驿路枫情论坛看看吧

dfer

给LP打了一下分, 居然可以拿到76, 看来管理职务, 学历较高的, 确实比较适合加拿大...

yazi

不错，分数很高，试试吧...

mingle

加拿大的语言能力打分看不懂,似乎没有雅思分数的换算.
IT manager的评估对学历有要求吗?
最后一条路就是走魁北克,大不了从头学法语.

ubuntuhk

原帖由 mingle 于 23-5-2010 21:04 发表

                               
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加拿大的语言能力打分看不懂,似乎没有雅思分数的换算.
IT manager的评估对学历有要求吗?
最后一条路就是走魁北克,大不了从头学法语.

加拿大的雅思是分项目算分的，分几个级别：不会（0分）、基本（1分）、中等（2分）、高（4分），然后四项分数相加：
参考：http://www.chuguoxinxi.com/canadajss.asp?page=34

08年11月28日之后雅思评分新标准

级别	每项得分	雅思考试成绩
	口语	听力	阅读（G类）	写作（G类）
高（high）	作为第一官方语言：4 作为第二官方语言：2	6.5-9.0	7.5-9.0	6.5-9.0	6.5-9.0
中等(Moderate)	作为任一官方语言：2	5.5-6.0	5.5-7.0	5.0-6.0	5.5-6.0
基本（Basic）	作为任一官方语言：1； 最高分2	4.0-5.0	4.5-5.0	3.5-4.5	4.0-5.0
不会（No）	0分	低于4.0	低于4.5	低于3.5	低于4.0

ifreely

加拿大的职业划分更离谱，雅思5.5的只要是IT管理就能过去，不敢想象
~~~~~被38项无情拒之的飘过

sundaliang

和lz一起学习, 做个标记

batigol

加拿大经济比澳洲差太多了

yiyue

原来只要manager。。。
这两天白想了

chenzhuo2008

我的ACS职业评估给了我2个MANAGER的TITLES，一个是SYSTEM MANAGER,一个是NETWORK SECURITY MANAGER，看来这个MANAGER主要是你的工作内容涉及项目管理而已，不是你担任了相关管理工作；BTW似乎行政管理工作的翻译更改用Administrator 或者Supervisor