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[职业发展] 中国的法学硕士到澳洲如何发展

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发表于 23-11-2007 18:17:51 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

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在中国读到了法学硕士,现即将移民到澳洲了,拿TR,应该如何发展呢,有没有人是这种情况,或者听说过呢,恳请指点指点啊
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发表于 23-11-2007 19:01:49 | 只看该作者
没机会.语言就过不了.
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发表于 23-11-2007 19:04:13 | 只看该作者
你就是读到法学博士,够牛了把, 唯一的出路还是回中国.

计算机本科的就可以找到8万的工作,法学没机会找到工作,语言就栏倒你,就算你IELTS8.5分把,你还是没机会,因为澳洲本地的律师比你有竞争力,你找不到打官司的人,那钱哪里来?
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发表于 23-11-2007 19:06:00 | 只看该作者
你的未来在中国,不是澳洲.

双城公司的老总WANG YUHONG,1995年北大法律本科毕业,到NSW读了法学硕士,1997年就回国成立咨询公司.
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发表于 23-11-2007 19:06:47 | 只看该作者
诶,又浪费时间回答这无聊问题.

老师,律师,医生等出国都没有机会.
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发表于 23-11-2007 19:25:19 | 只看该作者
从政啊,组织个政党去堪培拉占一席就不用找工作了.
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发表于 24-11-2007 00:10:34 | 只看该作者

回复 #6 澳洲桉树 的帖子

中国人想在国外从政?做梦吧。
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发表于 24-11-2007 08:31:29 | 只看该作者
LLB or JD
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发表于 24-11-2007 11:51:03 | 只看该作者
原帖由 kaku32 于 23-11-2007 19:04 发表
你就是读到法学博士,够牛了把, 唯一的出路还是回中国.

计算机本科的就可以找到8万的工作,法学没机会找到工作,语言就栏倒你,就算你IELTS8.5分把,你还是没机会,因为澳洲本地的律师比你有竞争力,你找不到打官司 ...



如果读完澳洲的法律本科,在澳洲你肯定有做律师的机会。
作为一名律师,你具有本地律师不可比拟的优越性--语言,中文;
那么你将服务澳洲非常富有的一个社会群体--华人。

那么你的时薪可能在$200-300/小时。

作为服务华人的澳洲律师,你最起码可专注于下列领域:
离婚与财产分割
工伤与保险索赔
大众置业

如果业务实在很烂,作为澳洲律师,你还可以做移民代理。

前提是:拿个LLb,实习一年,然后就可以注册成为律师。

[ 本帖最后由 donaus 于 24-11-2007 13:03 编辑 ]
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发表于 24-11-2007 14:59:14 | 只看该作者
澳洲从政的中国人,也不是没有啊。不过要看楼主的英语怎么样了。
而且澳洲从政,都是自己钱花不完的人。这里当官可没有灰色收入可拿。

原帖由 beysup 于 24-11-2007 00:10 发表
中国人想在国外从政?做梦吧。
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发表于 24-11-2007 16:13:36 | 只看该作者
英语好,还有些可能,英语不好,一切免谈。
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 楼主| 发表于 26-11-2007 12:02:41 | 只看该作者
感谢大家的回复~~~提供这么多信息~~~无论是正面的还是负面的。。。都让我这个没登陆的有一些心理准备。。看来刚去的一段时间,我还是得调整好心态,不一定会做什么工作,以后的发展,还是像donaus说的,一定要读一个LLB的,谢谢你说的这么详细。。。。
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发表于 26-11-2007 14:40:06 | 只看该作者
tigtag澳洲版有个有志青年赴澳读法律的精华帖子.

土豆网上聚集了国内出来念法律拿bar的人.
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发表于 27-11-2007 11:22:26 | 只看该作者
你可以免一年,读两年就可以拿LLB了,也可以读DIPLOMA OF LAW,加十三门科,可以业余也可以全日
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发表于 27-11-2007 11:27:52 | 只看该作者
LEGAL PRACTITIONERS ADMISSION BOARD


General Admission Advice for Overseas Applicants


The Legal Practitioners Admission Board (the Board) has produced the following general advice for those seeking admission as a legal practitioner in New South Wales. It is intended to supplement what appears on the Board’s website, at www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lpab

Qualifying as a Legal Practitioner in New South Wales (‘NSW’)
To be eligible for admission as a legal practitioner in NSW, you must complete (or receive exemption from) the 'academic' and the 'practical legal training' stages of qualification in the State.
Once admission takes place, the issue of further training for a barrister is the responsibility of the NSW Bar Association and the issue of the practising certificates as a solicitor is the responsibility of the NSW Law Society.
The Board is responsible only up to the point of admission as a legal practitioner.

Academic Stage of Qualification
To fulfil the academic stage of qualification, an applicant must complete a tertiary academic programme in Australia with the equivalent of not less than three years full-time study and which includes the eleven compulsory courses of law study for the purpose of admission in Australia . In NSW, such programmes are either the Board’s Examinations or a law degree in a NSW University that is accredited by the Board.

Application for assessment for exemption from this obligation (in whole or in part) would be on Form 16 and is a matter for consideration by the Academic Exemptions Sub-Committee.

This sub-committee has power under Rule 97 of the Legal Practitioners Admission Rules 1994 (‘the Rules’) to assess to what extent an applicant may be exempt from completing the 20 subjects that comprise the Board’s Examinations.

Rule 97 classifies applicants into five categories depending on the origin of their academic studies and degree of progression towards admission as a legal practitioner in their home jurisdiction. There are separate criteria of assessment for each of these categories and the Board has published guidelines for overseas applicants that are published on the Board’s website.

Of particular significance is the difference in assessment criteria between someone who has completed the academic stage of qualification in their home jurisdiction and someone who has not.

Applicants who have not completed the academic stage of qualification in their home jurisdiction
Any application for exemption from academic subjects forming part of the Board’s Examinations would be treated under Rule 97(2)(b). Under that sub-rule, exemption assessment would be completed by comparing each individual subject studied in their original law degree with those required to be studied on the Board’s Examinations i.e. assessed on a subject for subject basis.

Consequently, an applicant may be likely to receive only limited exemptions given that the Board’s Examinations comprise 20 subjects in total. Furthermore, some of those law subjects previously studied may not have a Board examination equivalent e.g. the study of Constitutional Law from a home jurisdiction will not exempt an applicant from studying Australian Constitutional Law.

Applicants who have completed the academic stage of qualification in their home jurisdiction
In contrast, an applicant who has successfully completed the academic stage of qualification in their home jurisdiction will be assessed under different criteria. For those who have not been admitted to practise law, they will be assessed under Rule 97(2)(c). For those who have been admitted but who have not practised, they will be assessed under Rule 97(2)(d). For applicants who have been admitted and who have practiced, they will be assessed under Rule 97(2)(e).

The Board’s website gives guidance as to the likely level of exemption for certain jurisdictions. In the case of others, a person who has successfully completed the academic stage of qualification in their home jurisdiction will normally be required to study a maximum of thirteen of the Board’s one-semester subjects . This total will be less if the Academic Exemptions Sub-Committee determine that exemptions can be awarded for one or more of these thirteen subjects. In particular, applicants who have evidence of at least five years post-admission legal experience of a sufficiently general nature may gain a further exemption from studying Australian Constitutional Law.

Studying Required Subjects
Upon the determination by the Academic Exemptions Sub-Committee, any subject that is to be satisfactorily completed may be studied through the Law Extension Committee of the University of Sydney (LEC). The LEC provides the tuition component for the Board’s Examinations and this may be delivered either at evening lectures in Sydney or, if the applicant has a residential address in NSW, remotely, as an ‘external student’ using the LEC’s tuition materials and LEC’s weekend schools.

If study is not possible through the LEC, there are alternative study options available with other legal education providers but it is important to note that in choosing such provision, any such study undertaken must fully satisfy the requirements of Rule 97 to be able to attract exemptions.

Such study may be completed:
•        at distance at some Universities e.g. the University of New England (www.une.edu.au); or
•        locally in New South Wales, at a University providing a law degree accredited by the Board.

Practical Legal Training Stage of Qualification
To fulfil the practical training requirements, an applicant must have completed a practical legal training course accredited by the Board.
Applications for exemption from the obligation to complete practical legal training is on Form 17 (under rule 98 of the Rules) and is made to the Practical Training Exemptions Sub-Committee. Exemptions may only be given where the applicant has shown that they had gained competencies 'substantially equivalent' to those expected of a person who has successfully completed a practical legal training programme accredited by the Board. No partial exemption is permitted from this stage of qualification.

A useful starting point for an applicant would be to scrutinise what a practical training course involves by accessing data from one of the accredited practical training course providers that are listed on the Board’s web-site. Such an accredited programme will generally consist of structured tuition in (i) core areas of substantive and procedural law and practice, including the areas of property law practice, company/commercial practice and civil litigation practice; (ii) essential skills, including work management and business skills and trust and office accounting; and (iii) ethics and professional responsibility. In addition, there will be workplace experience.

Guidance is given on the Board’s website as to the content and structure of any practical training exemption application and it is open to all applicants to provide evidence from whatever source e.g. from previous pre-admission training or post-admission training and practice.

In general, however, applicants should be aware that, in the absence of compelling evidence of appropriate training or experience elsewhere , an applicant who has yet to engage in the workplace training and experience would most likely be required to complete a practical legal training program that has been accredited by the Board.




Legal Practitioners Admission Board
March 2003
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 楼主| 发表于 2-12-2007 21:13:03 | 只看该作者
原帖由 单衣纵酒 于 26-11-2007 14:40 发表
tigtag澳洲版有个有志青年赴澳读法律的精华帖子.

土豆网上聚集了国内出来念法律拿bar的人.



恩~~~TIGTAG那个帖子我也找来看啦....不过土豆网上的人群我还是得去寻寻...嘿嘿~~~多谢提供信息..

Ps. 请问你是学法律的吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2-12-2007 21:18:34 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Mars 于 27-11-2007 11:22 发表
你可以免一年,读两年就可以拿LLB了,也可以读DIPLOMA OF LAW,加十三门科,可以业余也可以全日



这个消息真是太好拉,,呵呵呵呵....

Mars是不是也是学法律的啊??

感觉你是对法律和会计都很有兴趣吧..
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发表于 3-12-2007 14:17:09 | 只看该作者
偶是会计,对法律有点兴趣,在工作之余顺便考了司法考试,就过了
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发表于 3-12-2007 17:33:38 | 只看该作者
你还在国内,可以去买《法律,理性与历史-澳大利亚的理念,制度和实践》这本书看下,法制出版社出的,三十元左右,挺有意思的。
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 楼主| 发表于 3-12-2007 17:45:45 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Mars 于 3-12-2007 14:17 发表
偶是会计,对法律有点兴趣,在工作之余顺便考了司法考试,就过了

好强啊~~~~我在国内学法律的同学中,有过注会的就觉得很强了,,在澳洲也有这样的啊...看来真是牛人到哪都牛啊..
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 楼主| 发表于 3-12-2007 17:49:47 | 只看该作者
原帖由 单衣纵酒 于 3-12-2007 17:33 发表
你还在国内,可以去买《法律,理性与历史-澳大利亚的理念,制度和实践》这本书看下,法制出版社出的,三十元左右,挺有意思的。


好的好的,去看看~~~~ 多谢分享~~~

你也是在国内学的法律吗?? 我已经学了这么多年法律了,,一想到去国外还要再重新学另一个法系的,,,真是有点忐忑呢.....
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 楼主| 发表于 3-12-2007 17:56:55 | 只看该作者
原帖由 kaku32 于 23-11-2007 19:06 发表
你的未来在中国,不是澳洲.

双城公司的老总WANG YUHONG,1995年北大法律本科毕业,到NSW读了法学硕士,1997年就回国成立咨询公司.



你说的确实是这样,,我也有很多同学在国外读的硕士,然后回国发展,,这是一条真的很不错,或者说相当不错的事业之路...
可是每个人都有自己的情况...为了和心爱的人在一起,,我必须得在澳洲发展,,,即使很困难地说,,即使我现在在国内已经有不错的工作的说,,

感谢提供信息,,更感谢分享法律人在澳洲发展的信息~~~~
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发表于 4-12-2007 12:25:08 | 只看该作者
在澳洲也不是一定做不到高端市场,最近我们公司到欧交所上市,你想法找几个公司到澳洲上市
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发表于 4-12-2007 12:27:39 | 只看该作者
其实你可以读个两年的LLB或者全日制读Diploma of law,拿了国籍就可以在澳洲当律师了,过几年再回国.Diploma of law费用很低,一万澳元就可以全部搞定
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发表于 4-12-2007 12:30:14 | 只看该作者
奇怪, “千家万户想得是一个声音”, 我也是发这个声音。
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发表于 8-12-2007 23:06:08 | 只看该作者
Mars好牛啊,竟然一不留神就过了司法考试这个中国第一考
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发表于 8-12-2007 23:07:49 | 只看该作者

弱弱地问一句

没入籍之前,读完Diploma of law之后,可以找哪些职位啊?容易吗?
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发表于 9-12-2007 01:24:17 | 只看该作者
26岁过注册会计师最后一门,32岁过司法考试,准备在四十岁前再过美国的注册与律师
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发表于 9-12-2007 02:14:20 | 只看该作者
入不入籍你都可以当律师,通过了全部考试还有5个月的实习。
你有中国的律师执照的话,最快的方法是考美国加州的BAR,只要有外国律师资格都可以考加州的bar
有美国的bar,只要再加门澳洲宪法就可以当澳洲的律师了,不过你最好先问一下州的律师协会,没有在美国学过法律,直接拿美国BAR可以只考一门吗
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 楼主| 发表于 10-12-2007 13:09:15 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Mars 于 9-12-2007 02:14 发表
入不入籍你都可以当律师,通过了全部考试还有5个月的实习。
你有中国的律师执照的话,最快的方法是考美国加州的BAR,只要有外国律师资格都可以考加州的bar
有美国的bar,只要再加门澳洲宪法就可以当澳洲的律师 ...


确实是一条捷径啊,,国内的司法考试我到是通过了,,现在正在一年的实习期当中,,还没有拿到执业资格。。。想问问Mars   国内的执业资格去澳洲有用吗?  如果没有什么大的用处,我就不打算申请了,,毕竟还要培训,,还要交费的
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