（转）家庭七人座新选择～Nissan Pathfinder ST 2WD v Mazda CX-9

西澳海豚 · 发表于 8-12-2013 18:27:52

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Nissan Pathfinder ST 2WD: from $39,990 plus on-road costs. 3.5-litre V6 petrol;
190kW/325Nm; CVT; 10.2L/100km; FWD.

Mazda CX-9 Classic 2WD: from $44,525 plus on-road costs. 3.7-litre V6 petrol;
204kW/367Nm; six-speed automatic; 11.0L/100km; FWD.

Value
Nissan

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Nissan is generously equipped with 18-inch alloys, 7-inch colour media screen, 6-speaker stereo with single-disc, USB connectivity and 2GB of music storage, Bluetooth, cruise control, tri-zone airconditioning, keyless entry and ignition, cloth trim, reversing camera and rear parking sensors all standard.

Mazda

Standard gear includes tri-zone aircon, Bluetooth, cruise control, cloth trim, 6-speaker stereo with single-disc and USB connectivity and reversing camera. But it can’t match the Pathfinder and misses out on the music storage, keyless entry and ignition and parking sensors.

Winner: Nissan

Inside
Nissan

Starting with a clean sheet has allowed Nissan to create a very spacious interior. The second row seats slide so you can trade-off space with the third row, which ultimately means a car capable of carrying seven in comfort. The second row also has a function that allows you to fit a baby seat but still access the third row without moving the seat or climb over the baby seat tether. Nissan has also created plenty of small item storage space including 10 cup holders and six bottle holders.

Mazda

Not as spacious as the Pathfinder, particularly in the third row. Design has started to look dated too, both compared to the Nissan and newer Mazdas, but is still well-laid out. There is good small item storage in the CX-9, which makes it family friendly. There is noticeably less boot space in the Mazda though, with both the third row seats up and down.

Winner: Nissan

Engine
Nissan

Down on both power and torque compared to the CX-9 but doesn’t feel sluggish. There’s strong pulling power even with a family on board. The downside is the engine is thirsty, it averaged in the mid teens during our time with it, but crucially it is less than the CX-9. The CVT is one of the better examples we’ve experienced.

Mazda

Diesels may offer better fuel economy but this big V6 has plenty of punch to carry seven occupants. But the fuel use is worse both on paper and in our experience on test. The six-speed auto is a smoother operator than the Nissan’s CVT.

Winner: Nissan

How it drives
Nissan

No longer based on the same underpinnings as the Navara ute, the Pathfinder is more at home on-road rather than off-road. The ride is soft, so there is some noticeable body lean in corners, but it does a good job of soaking up bumps. The steering is nice and light but lacks feel and feedback. Driving only the front wheels with such a powerful engine means there is some torque steer under hard acceleration.

Mazda

Ride is firmer than the Pathfinder, so it has less lean in the corners but can crash over larger bumps. The steering is better being nicely weighted but with more feel and feedback. Also suffers from torque steer at times.

Winner: Mazda

Practicality
Nissan

Still has some pretensions of being an off-roader, despite being two-wheel drive. Nissan claims an approach angle of 14.7 degrees, departure angle of 22.3 degrees and ground clearance of 165mm. Boasts a greater (braked) towing capacity of 2700kg.

Mazda

Doesn’t pretend to be an off-roader. But lower towing capacity (2000kg braked) means the CX-9 won’t be as appealing to those who have a watercraft or caravan to take along.

Winner: Nissan

Verdict
Nissan

As an all-new model it should have taken the win - and it does so in dominant fashion. The new Pathfinder is an ideal family SUV for those who need to carry five or more on a regular basis. The only major downside is its below par fuel economy.

Mazda

Despite the mild facelift last year the CX-9 is showing its age. Thirsty and lacking value compared to its rivals it’s only saving grace is its ‘zoom-zoom’ driving dynamics.

Winner: Nissan

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 20:55:01

可以再加两辆车做对比
Toyota Kluger 和 Holden Colorado 7

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 21:17:04

CX-9
Engine Location Front
Torque 367Nm @ 4250rpm
Configuration V60
Induction System Aspirated
Engine Size (cc) 3726
Fuel Type Petrol - Unleaded ULP
Cam DOHC with VVT
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 76
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Engine Type Piston
Method of Delivery Electronic Sequential
Engine Number CA ########
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 15.2
Cylinders 6
Carbon Dioxide (g/km) 257
Valves per Cylinder 4
Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 8.6
Compression Ratio 10.3
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 11.0
Power 204kW @ 6250rpm

Kerb Weight (kg) 1939
Length (mm) 5106
Tare Mass (kg) 1890
Width (mm) 1936
Towing Braked (kg) 2000
Height (mm) 1728
Towing Not Braked (kg) 750
Track Front (mm) 1654
Wheel Base (mm) 2875
Track Rear (mm) 1644

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 21:20:31

Pathfinder
Engine Location Front
Power 190kW @ 6400rpm
Configuration V
Torque 325Nm
Engine Size (cc) 3498
Induction System Aspirated
Cam DOHC with VVT
Fuel Type Petrol - Unleaded ULP
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 73
Engine Type Piston
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Engine Number VQ35#######
Method of Delivery Electronic Sequential
Engine Code VQ35
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 13.1
Cylinders 6
Carbon Dioxide (g/km) 233
Valves per Cylinder 4
Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 7.9
Compression Ratio 10.3
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 9.9

Tare Mass (kg) 1920
Length (mm) 5008
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2715
Width (mm) 1960
Towing Braked (kg) 2700
Height (mm) 1768
Towing Not Braked (kg) 750
Track Front (mm) 1670
Wheel Base (mm) 2900
Track Rear (mm) 1670

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 21:24:26

Kluger
Engine Location Front
Torque 337Nm @ 4700rpm
Configuration V60
Acceleration 0-100Km/h (secs) 8.0
Engine Size (cc) 3456
Induction System Aspirated
Cam DOHC with VVT
Fuel Type Petrol - Unleaded ULP
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 72
Engine Type Piston
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Engine Number 2GR-#######
Method of Delivery Electronic Sequential
Engine Code 2GR-FE
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 15.0
Cylinders 6
Carbon Dioxide (g/km) 259
Valves per Cylinder 4
Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 8.7
Compression Ratio 10.8
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 11.0
Power 201kW @ 6200rpm

Kerb Weight (kg) 1830
Wheel Base (mm) 2790
Tare Mass (kg) 1805
Length (mm) 4785
Gross Combination Mass (kg) 4630
Width (mm) 1910
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2630
Height (mm) 1730
Pay Load (kg) 800
Track Front (mm) 1625
Towing Braked (kg) 2000
Track Rear (mm) 1630
Towing Not Braked (kg) 700

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 21:29:25

Colorado 7
Engine Location Front
Torque 500Nm @ 2000-2200rpm
Configuration In-line
Induction System Turbo Intercooled
Engine Size (cc) 2776
Fuel Type Diesel
Cam Double Overhead Cam
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 76
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Fuel Delivery Direct Injection
Engine Type Piston
Method of Delivery Electronic Sequential
Engine Number A** G#####9001
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 12.7
Cylinders 4
Carbon Dioxide (g/km) 243
Valves per Cylinder 4
Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 7.7
Compression Ratio 16.5
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 9.2
Power 147kW @ 3600rpm

Kerb Weight (kg) 2170
Wheel Base (mm) 2845
Tare Mass (kg) 2098
Length (mm) 4878
Gross Combination Mass (kg) 5700
Width (mm) 2132
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2820
Height (mm) 1833
Pay Load (kg) 650
Track Front (mm) 1570
Towing Braked (kg) 3000
Track Rear (mm) 1588
Towing Not Braked (kg) 750

牧马人 · 发表于 8-12-2013 22:26:01

不太适合比吧，Pathfiner和corolado都是ute平台，real 4X4。kluger和CX-9都是7座SUV。不是一类车

西澳海豚 · 发表于 8-12-2013 22:29:05

这样说来，pathfinder 的价钱卖得挺实惠

james.shanghai · 发表于 8-12-2013 22:34:49

个人喜欢老款的PATROL Y61

setset · 发表于 8-12-2013 22:48:18

为什么cx-7不卖了

webster · 发表于 8-12-2013 22:48:43

牧马人发表于 8-12-2013 22:26

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不太适合比吧，Pathfiner和corolado都是ute平台，real 4X4。kluger和CX-9都是7座SUV。不是一类车

kluger和CX-9算crossover。

但是澳洲这边很多网站分得乱，把真假越野车跟轿车的station wagon混在一起，通通叫wagon。

gus80 · 发表于 8-12-2013 23:12:46

setset 发表于 8-12-2013 22:48

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为什么cx-7不卖了

给cx5腾地方

setset · 发表于 9-12-2013 01:06:23

gus80 发表于 8-12-2013 23:12

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给cx5腾地方

哦，澳洲为什么不卖雪佛兰那种总统车队超大的suv，第三排也很宽敞，翻起后后备箱还有很大空间

chainray · 发表于 9-12-2013 08:58:56

这么大的车，2驱够么。。。

zzoz · 发表于 9-12-2013 09:02:53

新pathfinder已经不是ute平台的offroader了

西澳海豚 · 发表于 9-12-2013 10:20:37

因为现实生活中，真正需要正统四驱的顾客不多，车厂当然想适合大多顾客需求。

不意外！连 pajero 都变成一体式底盘，独立悬吊了------

ute 平台的成本又高，如果要ute平台 isuzu 的 d-max 有七座上市，（只卖40500起）

ISUZU MU-X 3.0升柴油发动机分时四驱 UTE 底盘

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牧马人 · 发表于 9-12-2013 10:46:36

Pajero都变承载式车身了？3p以后名存实亡啦！

熊猫阿三 · 发表于 9-12-2013 10:53:39

人家买七座车在乎的是座位多而不是性能。

西澳海豚 · 发表于 9-12-2013 11:05:35

如果要7座，没offroad需求，应该选 tarago 或 odyssey

2014 新款的 odyssey 看著不错！

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zzoz · 发表于 9-12-2013 11:30:04

pajero好像2000年前后就改承载式平台了吧。不过还会有ute平台的suv的，ford将在2015上市的everest基于ranger平台

ashanadsl · 发表于 9-12-2013 12:01:50

setset · 发表于 9-12-2013 12:55:17

雪佛兰suburban，5米7

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cdutboy20 · 发表于 9-12-2013 13:26:44

Tribeca呢？大家能给点评论吗？和Kluger, CX9相比。

setset · 发表于 9-12-2013 13:26:49

suburban一直是美国FBI，CIA等部门的外勤用车，总统车队也用，越狱，华氏911，战略特勤组，空军一号等片子里都有出现，4万6美刀起

蓝山夜妖 · 发表于 9-12-2013 15:02:59

牧马人发表于 9-12-2013 10:46

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Pajero都变承载式车身了？3p以后名存实亡啦！

最近7年的达喀尔拉力赛，pajero的成绩还不如长城

webster · 发表于 9-12-2013 23:52:12

chainray 发表于 9-12-2013 08:58

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这么大的车，2驱够么。。。

不越野的话够，

所以suv之外出了个新名词crossover，低成本高车身 always onroad。
但中文译名＂跨界车＂这个对应词不合适也不通顺，很多人还是把它们当成＂越野车＂。

webster · 发表于 9-12-2013 23:55:38

西澳瓶鼻海豚发表于 9-12-2013 11:05

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如果要7座，没offroad需求，应该选 tarago 或 odyssey

2014 新款的 odyssey 看著不错！

但很多人还有个要求，是在公路上坐的地势要高一些

这也是很多人诟病Odyssey的地方，就是个普通station wagon啊！

老猫漫步 · 发表于 10-12-2013 00:01:46

话说pathfinder和patrol啥关系？
是不是就是kluger和prado的关系？

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