yping88 发表于 17-6-2013 13:36 static/image/common/back.gif
You made my day, NowOzer!
Thank you...and ...me too......
记得和一个老外聊天时，人家有这么一句“you made my day complete."...（大概是这么说滴吧）。。
貌似是在咵俺吧。。。不知俺记错了没有。。。:ppb_60
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 14:18 编辑
newozer 发表于 17-6-2013 13:58 static/image/common/back.gif
Thank you...and ...me too......
记得和一个老外聊天时，人家有这么一句“you made my day complete. ...
Of course it's complimentary, meaning he's gonna be happy for the day whenever thinking of your remarks!
newozer 发表于 17-6-2013 12:52 static/image/common/back.gif
靠，指纹你惊到俺了。。。深藏不露啊。。。
这年头动不动就跳出个高手。。。唉，江湖有风险，行走 ...
正解，NewOzer! @指纹 把俺吓得第一次在这个贴子里说中文！
yping88 发表于 17-6-2013 14:17 static/image/common/back.gif
正解，NewOzer! @指纹 把俺吓得第一次在这个贴子里说中文！
严重不鼓励拍马屁帖！
我学英语懒得要命，单词也不背，看书就犯困，得好好改改:L
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 15:58 编辑
指纹 发表于 17-6-2013 14:23 static/image/common/back.gif
严重不鼓励拍马屁帖！
我学英语懒得要命，单词也不背，看书就犯困，得好好改改
Nobody is flattering anybody, I was just so scared when you made your grand entrance that I had to turn to my native language to make myself clear, it's all I was trying to say! Heehee, now, I am back on my feet again!
我从来没回过这个帖子。太奇怪了，不符合我的风格。
首先消灭零回复
yping88 发表于 16-6-2013 20:34 static/image/common/back.gif
Hey, how's your weekend been so far?
I have been doing a lot of thinking recently about somethin ...
这个话题时很沉重。
但是首先，其他人没有剥夺别人生命的权利。
其次，自己也没有剥夺自己生命的权利。因为生命是父母给的。
再次，90岁的老人有痴呆症，可以说她丧失了判断的能力。 所以别人都做的就是维护她得生命。
但是过的好不好，只有自己判断。因为她丧失了判断能力，所以别人也不能替她判断。
只有有爱的关怀，谁能说这样得生命没有意义呢。
综上所述，她应该还活下去
谢谢对方辩友
周星星1832 发表于 17-6-2013 15:02 static/image/common/back.gif
这个话题时很沉重。
但是首先，其他人没有剥夺别人生命的权利。
Thanks, @周星星1832, great mind! What you said makes perfect sense, I will take it all in. It feels so comfortable and natural to get close to what's in your mind and heart.
I gotta admit that it's a grave topic for anyone to shed lights on, but sometimes, we would have to put our mentality on test, wouldn't we?
This topic becomes more interesting and inviting with your insights! Woohoo!
每次看到这个帖子都觉得freeoz的字母颜色好淡啊。。。
Tahoma 的字体为什么会显得那么淡呢。。。还是因为灰色的关系。。？
周星星1832 发表于 17-6-2013 15:02 static/image/common/back.gif
这个话题时很沉重。
但是首先，其他人没有剥夺别人生命的权利。
There are lots of logical errors in your statement :lol
To name a few:
自己也没有剥夺自己生命的权利。因为生命是父母给的。
You have the right to treat your belongings once it is given to you. Why is life excluded?
90岁的老人有痴呆症，可以说她丧失了判断的能力。 所以别人都做的就是维护她得生命。
There is no logic in this conclusion at all.
因为她丧失了判断能力，所以别人也不能替她判断。
There is completely lack of cause and effect relation here.
:yct_4:yct_4:yct_4
And I believe this one below will lead to more ethical paradox:
只有（只要）有爱的关怀，谁能说这样得生命没有意义呢。
A black hole absorbs everything reaching it without any feedback, are you sure this could be called a "life"? What would be the meaning to other lives, or suppliers?
星版向来阳光，充满爱心，:support: 不过我们讨论的问题好像超出了爱心的范围了:yct_35
指纹 发表于 17-6-2013 15:49 static/image/common/back.gif
There are lots of logical errors in your statement
To name a few:
Hey, @指纹, you knocked me off my feet again!
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 17:20 编辑
Now, I remembered that I was once approached by a senior chinese lady with a common question that was asked frequently back home: My husband was so sick that he needed bypass surgery the sooner the better. But we were just visitors here without better traveling insurance, do you think the medical staff would take into consideration whether we can afford it if the bypass surgery is the only answer?
All my dear friends, I sincerely invite you all to feedback to me what answer I did provide and what answer I should be providing to the best knowledge you would have so far about this health system.
Very much appreciated!
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 17:24 编辑
HeeHee, @指纹. That's right, you will have to pick up the philosophy puzzle-cracking skills that bored you back in college. It would be fun to trouble-shoot the coming issues in different culture, to put your talent on new scale, to weigh in in the new culture with your personal belief system.
:lol又有热闹看了。。。:lol
周猩猩经常挂在嘴边的一句名言：“言多必失。”;P;P。。。难得大放厥词一番就遇到指纹同学。。。:ppb_31
指纹好样滴:good。。。继续跟呀死磕。。。:ppb_26
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 22:11 编辑
Now, I am frantically calling for NewOzer's dialogue parterner @MICHELLE07 NewOzer isdominating his monologue show and nobody else can turn the style around.
Haha, what a huge relief to see your turn-up, Michelle!
MICHELLE07 + 50 你不发表自己的意见就是怕被反对么?
俺只是没有那么多时间大放厥词;P。。也没有那么多时间说服别人认同俺滴大放厥词;P。。。:ppb_26
呼叫失效可能是格式问题,ID后面必须是空格. @mite@yearshappy@x24敬请阅读221楼并奉献高见. 谢谢!
还有最近发现美女 @EmilyS也非常有才,欢迎参与.
MICHELLE07 发表于 17-6-2013 22:20 static/image/common/back.gif
呼叫失效可能是格式问题,ID后面必须是空格. @mite@yearshappy@x24敬请阅读221楼并奉献高见. 谢谢!
...
这。。。明显有。。。群殴滴架势么。。。:ppb_60
newozer 发表于 17-6-2013 22:19 static/image/common/back.gif
MICHELLE07 + 50 你不发表自己的意见就是怕被反对么?
俺只是没有那么多时间大放厥词。。也没有那么多时 ...
You don't have to persuade others to agree on your opinion, if you are happy to express it.
In most cases, there is no right or wrong, there is merely difference of standpoint.
:yct_4:yct_4:yct_4
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 22:43 编辑
MICHELLE07 发表于 17-6-2013 22:20 static/image/common/back.gif
呼叫失效可能是格式问题,ID后面必须是空格. @mite@yearshappy@x24敬请阅读221楼并奉献高见. 谢谢!
...
Thanks, Michelle. You are amazing more than anyone could be able to think of. I can't believe I have posted something regarding interpersonal skills for someone else to read. Now, I guess I should be the one to ask myself some serious questions.
Yeah,I second the appeals to the above IDs. Oh, I can't wait to see how much fun this could be if all of them turned up.Once again, a huge thank-you to @指纹 for showing up and standing himself out.
@newozer
An expression I learned a long time ago was:
I am thinking with my left brain 'cuz I'm out my right mind.
Another joke was:
In his right brain there is nothing left; and
in his left brain, there is nothing right!
:yct_32:yct_32:yct_32
指纹 发表于 17-6-2013 22:28 static/image/common/back.gif
You don't have to persuade others to agree on your opinion, if you are happy to express it.
In...
一时半会还真没习惯指纹用全英文发表讲话。。。;P;P
另外，咱能别总是用dcxg一样滴经典表情么？。。。俺有点晕。。。:ppb_60
newozer 发表于 17-6-2013 22:36 static/image/common/back.gif
一时半会还真没习惯指纹用全英文发表讲话。。。
另外，咱能别总是用dcxg一样滴经典表情么？。。。俺 ...
好吧，我不用洋葱头了:mk_69
指纹 发表于 17-6-2013 22:38 static/image/common/back.gif
好吧，我不用洋葱头了
:lol嗯，猴子表情挺好。。。而且冒失暂时还没有太多经典人物使用。。。:ppb_70
本帖最后由 MICHELLE07 于 17-6-2013 22:52 编辑
我很喜欢现在的气氛，希望这是我们帖子的一个新的小高潮，愉快的分享还远未结束...
我上学时也偶尔参加小范围的辩论，我喜欢清晰地、强烈地表达观点，既然是被征询意见、参与辩论，我不好意思允许自己持不发表意见的旁观者态度。
我，依然选择尊重生命、以我们最大的努力维持每一个人的生命。
我不善于说大道理，只能从切身体会出发，简单地阐述自己的观点。
我奶奶85岁高龄时无疾而终。临走前医生说她全身器官衰竭，没有再住在医院的意义。接她出院那天，她已经无法说话，意识模糊，但还是知道自己要被送到乡下老家等死。她紧紧地抓住病房的被单不松手，不愿意离开医院...我姐姐说奶奶眼里都是乞求的泪水，她说不出话，只希望大家不要放弃挽救她，她那么留恋这人世...离开医院后她很快就走了，带着满脸的泪水。那天是情人节，我上大学一年级。
我坚信如果我们继续让奶奶住在医院，每天给她身上插着管子，她一定可以活着等到我暑假回去。我承诺过：“奶奶，暑假我回来看你，那时你病一定好了。”
当然医生是对的，她的生命毫无质量可言，气若游丝，而人们想当然地以为人老了希望死在自己的故土，所以以最快的速度送她回去。我无法责疑任何人的决定，我只怀疑这种放弃加快了她的离去。
我在公司不忙的时候，可以访问论坛，但由于技术问题一直无法登陆，只能是游客。
我能看到你们在热烈地讨论这个话题，我看到小帅一如既往地调侃让我又爱又恨，我看到指纹的精彩言论让我心悦诚服，看到周星星和我相似的观点让我高兴愉快。
可惜我说不出话来。
我就象那90岁的痴呆老人，无法说话、无法和你们联系。但我能看到，能感觉我存在、我活着。
如果我听到你们在讨论，要不要继续维持MICHELLE07这个ID？ 因为她已经不能登陆，不能发言，没有了生存意义。
如果，你们决定放弃我，你们说，我会愿意吗?
本帖最后由 yping88 于 17-6-2013 22:50 编辑
指纹 发表于 17-6-2013 22:35 static/image/common/back.gif
@newozer
I can't stress enough how thrilled I am to make that call to you! Thank you for shining through, @指纹
各位请继续。。。俺滴晚膳已经推迟很久了。。。c u ......:ppb_60
本帖最后由 指纹 于 17-6-2013 23:13 编辑
MICHELLE07 发表于 17-6-2013 22:47 static/image/common/back.gif
我很喜欢现在的气氛，希望这是我们帖子的一个新的小高潮，愉快的分享还远未结束...
我上学时也偶尔参加小 ...
没有办法否定你问的问题，如果@yping88 前文提到的故事主人公是我认识的人，甚至亲人，我也无法做任何判断，感情上也会选择尽可能的延长其生命，如果，主人公不是忍受着难以承受的痛苦。
可是当这个问题放到一个社会范围来看的时候，我的立场变了，我不能纯粹站在一个亲人的角度看这个问题了，所以我会提议一个社会承认的相对公正的角色来做判断。（这个有逃脱责任的嫌疑……）
这个世界上还是爱心多些，很好很好，其实我自己也不喜欢那种机械的道德规范……
本帖最后由 yping88 于 18-6-2013 09:44 编辑
MICHELLE07 发表于 17-6-2013 22:47 static/image/common/back.gif
我很喜欢现在的气氛，希望这是我们帖子的一个新的小高潮，愉快的分享还远未结束...
我上学时也偶尔参加小 ...
Michelle, thanks for sharing your personal story, which makes you more closer to us, makes us all to understand more of who you are.
About the death, all I would like to say is nobody deserves dying alone. As long as someone could die with dignity and with company, I guess it doesn't matter where and how people die.
And this reminds me of the touching story of that brave british girl and fallen soldier. Facing the terrorists waving a bloody cleave, this brave girl begged to be allowed staying on the dying soldier's side, because she believed nobody should die alone. That's why most people consider it an honored death dying inbed with their loved ones around.
But, if the dying person chose to fight, this right should never be overridden and a life should never be given up on.
The most terrible death is the one in which a person is dying with tears, knowing that he was given up on. That's one of kind dying alone that nobody would want to be in or witness anybody to be in.