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[原创天地] Foods in the Immigrant Diet _ a Personal Struggle?

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本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 25-8-2020 13:43 编辑

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Australia in recent decades has undertaken some dramatic social changes; leading the field is the subject of multiculturalism; no doubt because one third of Australia’s population were born overseas.

The latest Australia Bureau of Statistics 2016 shows the Chinese born residents to be the most prolific among those with a non-English speaking background. Being a Chinese migrant myself one of, if not the greatest issue of mine, upon settling down and calling this new land my home was food, precisely the differences between the food of the land of my birth and that of my newly adopted home.

Recently I conducted a research project to discover if other fellow elderly Chinese immigrants found difficulty in accepting the food of our new land as opposed to that of culturally familiar food. Through this project, I have learned a great deal about food as well as myself and Chinese culture. It has also helped me to gain a better understanding of how immigrants from other ethnic backgrounds accept such differences.

This forum provides me with a quick and convenient way to share my experiences and research findings relative to food culture with the members of the Chinese immigrant community throughout Australia. I would also like to hear from you as well.


What are your experiences relative to culturally based food and culinary practices in this land of Australia?
I’ll share my story short afterwards.

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 楼主| 发表于 25-8-2020 13:51:37 | 只看该作者
a reference from Azar et al "Festival foods in the immigrant diet' (2013)

a passage of ''The Roel of Food in Emotional, Social, and Physiological Wellness"

nihms407344.pdf

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 楼主| 发表于 25-8-2020 13:39:11 | 只看该作者
journal articles on the topic of breakfast

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc


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发表于 29-10-2018 11:04:18 | 只看该作者
Normally we would have an egg,  porridge and salted veges in the morning. Steamed bread for lunch and dinner only cause no time to prepare more for breakfast.

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 楼主| 发表于 28-10-2018 23:06:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 29-10-2018 00:10 编辑
KYLIE2008 发表于 28-10-2018 13:31
We did the blood test two weeks ago. The result came up last week....not good:-( Cholesterol ratio i ...

Cutting back your sugar intake will help lower your triglyceride. Try to avoid refined sugar as much as you can while watching your carbohydrate.
As for high cholesterol, i understand its chief cause is fat, precisely trans fat (the worst of all, according to the lecture from Yale University I learned yesterday) as well as saturated fat. So, you may have to have some changes in your diet. With regularly exercising, you'll be all right over time.

Below is talking about sugar, cholesterol and diet (from the perspective of public health), just in case you're interested
https://oyc.yale.edu/psychology/psyc-123/lecture-4

I'd like to hear from @yping88; how do you keep a healthy cholesterol and lower bad LDL?

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 楼主| 发表于 28-10-2018 17:50:38 | 只看该作者
KYLIE2008 发表于 28-10-2018 13:31
We did the blood test two weeks ago. The result came up last week....not good:-( Cholesterol ratio i ...

Emm,  it's perhaps reasonable to have a second test as many factors such as taking certain medications, and the length of a fast, can sometimes affect the readings.
Nonetheless, a proper diet is always essential to a good health. Cut back on sugar then , also get portion under control.
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发表于 28-10-2018 12:31:50 | 只看该作者
We did the blood test two weeks ago. The result came up last week....not good:-( Cholesterol ratio is much more than the standard, so is Triglyceride...we have to consider to give up some of our favorite...or reduce the portion... meat and sugar...these are all my best loved
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发表于 21-10-2018 18:12:01 | 只看该作者
Serin 发表于 11-10-2018 14:10
I have no problem with most of the edible stuff. I told my colleagues that I was a typical Chinese a ...

The real local ----Aborginal people like legs and feet as well.
In my family , we love to eat some organs , maybe once a month.

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MICHELLE07 发表于 11-10-2018 12:58
Thanks yearshappy for inviting me   
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Me too, mostly.
I have a strong curiosity to international food.
And also I really enjoy the food in Australia.
Additionally, I love cooking at home.

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发表于 21-10-2018 17:56:52 | 只看该作者
牧马人 发表于 11-10-2018 11:54
My brekkie. The dark spread on toast was vegemite. How adaptive am I!

Looks too salty.
I've never tried vegemite before.

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发表于 13-10-2018 01:33:57 | 只看该作者
Sorry, first time posting photos here. They look awfully huge

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发表于 13-10-2018 01:32:11 | 只看该作者
Being an adult immigrant like us, born and raised in China and now living in Western society, we become more or less of W-easterners. I have always loved Western culture from my heart, which could trace back to my middle-school years. To be exact, i think it all happened when i first heard the Carpenters' song Yesterday Once More. From there, English as a language and English songs are all very close to my heart. And after immigration to Australia, I have been trying to mix into the main stream culture. Only recent two years, I started to rediscover the beauty of Chinese culture, all started from traditional Chinese medicine, which turned out not just about medicine, it actually is part of the Chinese philosophy, i.e. the attitude towards life, do things in moderate measures and not to indulge in anything. I feel as a Chinese descendant I actually don’t know much about our culture. So here I am, haven’t really “mixed into” the local Western society, and shamefully don’t even know much about my own tradition culture. Understanding the saying “The only thing goes Internationally is the unique aspect of a nation’s culture” now, I am trying to reconnect with my root while still loving Western music, movies and philosophy…

Ok, back onto the topic of food. It is the same with food that I am a W-easterner.
I love baking and all sorts of Western food, i.e. home-made pizza, pudding, banana bread, home-made bread, yoghurt, but not vegemite Apparently not as adaptive as you @yearshappy. I also love making traditional Chinese food, i.e. home-made rice liquor, moon cake, stir-fried pork wrapped in bread.

It is really difficult to find all those photos for the food, so I have dug into my Wechat moments and grabbed the following screen-shots.

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发表于 12-10-2018 15:00:16 | 只看该作者
Serin 发表于 12-10-2018 09:15
You've put a lot of effort into your blogs and Youtube channel! Awesome work!

Thanks. It is an hobby of mine and my wife's and we have been working very hard on that. Thanks for the recognition.

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发表于 12-10-2018 09:01:22 | 只看该作者
yearshappy 发表于 12-10-2018 09:38
就是引用你的大吃小吃中吃的帖子,我自己的经历,几个年长的咱们的移民,当今学者的研究成果,领域里的已 ...

你们英文都太好了,我下辈子也追不上。

西餐我还是不太爱吃,一直都是中餐胃。

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 楼主| 发表于 12-10-2018 08:38:38 | 只看该作者
kevin妈妈 发表于 11-10-2018 12:47
我英文很渣,无法参与英文讨论你们聊

就是引用你的大吃小吃中吃的帖子,我自己的经历,几个年长的咱们的移民,当今学者的研究成果,领域里的已经建立的理论,探讨吃文化的社会现象

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带你湖 发表于 11-10-2018 18:39
Thanks for the invitaiton. I love my Shanghai cuisine very much. Living abroad for the last 15 years ...

You've put a lot of effort into your blogs and Youtube channel! Awesome work!
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 楼主| 发表于 11-10-2018 22:39:33 | 只看该作者
牧马人 发表于 11-10-2018 23:27
Chinese deep fried breadstick and 豆腐脑(who knows the English for it?)

As a Northerner I have  ...

savory tofu pudding would do

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发表于 11-10-2018 22:30:40 | 只看该作者

A proud fighter for the sacred name of 豆腐脑
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yping88 发表于 11-10-2018 21:40
What is your classic Chinese brekkie? I would like to understand your tears!

Chinese deep fried breadstick and 豆腐脑(who knows the English for it?)

As a Northerner I have to make it loud and clear, the 豆腐脑 has to be salty. Any sweet 豆花 is not only waste of food but also anti-human. Everyone must stand up to it.
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 楼主| 发表于 11-10-2018 22:26:45 | 只看该作者
牧马人 发表于 11-10-2018 23:18
Oh dear. I reckon only contentious topics can get me intrigued. So what now then?

so you're a fighter
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yping88 发表于 11-10-2018 21:38
Thank you for bringing this up, @yearshappy

This should be the topic on which @牧马人 and I wo ...

Oh dear. I reckon only contentious topics can get me intrigued. So what now then?
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Serin 发表于 11-10-2018 14:10
I have no problem with most of the edible stuff. I told my colleagues that I was a typical Chinese a ...

I don't think I can ever have enough of the deep-fried sticky rice cakes, which I desperately longed for as a child and abused on as a revenge in my adult life!
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 楼主| 发表于 11-10-2018 20:52:48 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 8-8-2020 17:16 编辑

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Integration & Culture Reproduction:

Finally call it Home

Acculturation in contemporary societies has shifted its objectives from the situation whereby a single dominant culture has broad control of indigenous peoples into the formation of a culturally pluralistic society where ethno-cultural groups have combined in order to live harmoniously together.

Professor John Berry from Queen’s University of Canada, inhis 2005 paper, claims that these mutually agreed adaptations of combining ethno-cultural groups may be a long-term process taking place over years or possibly even generations. At a social level, matters such as political, economic, historical and cultural factors may impact upon the adaptation process and at the individual level some may find it easy while others challenging. However, by progressive contact with other cultures and engagement in differing socialactivities, even the individuals who find integration difficult will discover that they will slowly adapt and accept the changes.

In my project, while two of the participants have lived in Australia for 8 and 11 years, the third informant has been absent from her birth country for 38 years. My data shows that the first two participants clearly practise the Chinese way of cooking, however, one of them also shows a strong interest in learning how to cook local food. For example, as well as her Chinese cooking appliances she also had a toaster and a full set of cutleries. During the interview, the third informant expressed that she had no issue with western food, particularly for the breakfast, as she and her husband often had weetbixor toast; however, it could be optimistic to think that mature age Chinese immigrants will, over time, readily adapt and even adopt this new culture and warm to the new cuisine available to them.

I, the participants in my project and many others are merely part of the process of culture reproduction. In time, we will finally call this land home.



Epilogue

This small project is only an attempt to disclose how the personal issues of mature aged Chinese immigrants have a public face.

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发表于 11-10-2018 20:40:59 | 只看该作者
牧马人 发表于 11-10-2018 13:03
As often as I travel back to China, having classic Chinese brekkie with tears in my eyes.

What is your classic Chinese brekkie? I would like to understand your tears!
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发表于 11-10-2018 20:38:46 | 只看该作者
yearshappy 发表于 11-10-2018 12:28
Have a look at two popular threads below:

https://freeoz.org/ibbs/thread-1299574-1-1.html 大家来 ...

Thank you for bringing this up, @yearshappy

This should be the topic on which @牧马人 and I would find each other have so much in common with!

Of course, we all love the land that we have made our permanent or long-term base in, please, join me and share your fondness for this land!

https://freeoz.org/ibbs/thread-1300331-1-1.html

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 楼主| 发表于 11-10-2018 20:36:59 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 8-8-2020 17:12 编辑

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What we are is shaped by Social Factors


Why do we want to eat what we eat?

Why is one man’s meat anotherman’s poison?


In an understanding as to why people eat what they eat andhow they become what they are, two theoretical frameworks may be helpful: the sociological imagination and the habitus theory.

The former was coined by Charles Wright Mills (1916-62) inhis publication The Sociological Imagination (1959) which teaches us that we cannot separate the individual from society; to understand one, we have to understand the other; we have to see an individual within a social and historical context.

The other is the habitus theory which was developed by Pierre Bourdieu (1930-2002), a leading French sociologist who observed that our preferences, such as in food are the interactions within social and material worlds and are determined by social factors including class, education and culture. His work, ‘Distinction: a social critique of the judgement of taste’, although based on the middle-classes in French society has significance that extends into today’s world.



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牧马人 发表于 11-10-2018 11:54
My brekkie. The dark spread on toast was vegemite. How adaptive am I!

A friend of mine once told me: If you try the vegemite, you will either love it or hate it, there will be no feelings in between!

Obviously, you love it! Good start to settle in!

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MICHELLE07 发表于 11-10-2018 12:58
Thanks yearshappy for inviting me   
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No matter where you end up, you would make it your own!

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本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 11-10-2018 21:32 编辑

The Significance of Chinese Foods for elderly Chinese Immigrants


Although my research involved only a small number of mature aged Chinese migrants, two of them prepared similar foods in the same manner. Culturally familiar food and culinary practices is for these Chinese immigrants the keystone to their future happiness and well-being.

By creating familiar food in a familiar kitchen, then migrants of any persuasion can state, “If the food tastes like home, then it is my home.” These are the feelings that were articulated by two participants while showing me their kitchen and their gardens where the leafy Chinese vegetable plants were thriving. Both of them appeared bright and optimistic with one commenting that earlier Chinese migrants in the era of the gold rush and afterwards were not lucky enough to have such ready access to Chinese food.  

Food is not simply only an entity of nutrition it carries memory and tradition and reflects identity. Culturally familiar food for people who are far away from where they grew up, can instantly trigger a series of emotions which can have impact on their physical well-being, as the Ghanaian migrants in the United States expressed ‘I haven’t eaten if I don’t have my soup and fufu.’ The pleasure, satisfaction and the fulfilment obtained from familiar food at a new home certainly assists the positive transitional experiences of these participants of my project.  



Would you have weetbix or bacon and eggs or soymilk and porridge for brekky?


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本帖最后由 yearshappy 于 8-8-2020 16:54 编辑



Show me what you eat, and I’ll tell you who you are


Samples from my photographic data collection

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