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dinohtar 1:27 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]lets see i understand this correctly. The NDIS trial will go till 2017-2018, and thats fully funded with the federal, and those states taking part, already OKing the billion dollar cost of the trial.
when ndis goes live (in 2018-2019), its expected to cost 8 billion a year. To raise that money, the current government wants to add a new tax from 2014, ie after the next election, and 4 years before they need it.
the money raised still wont be enough for NDIS, and the government is not saying where the extra money is coming from, but they want some money there for when it starts.
question ... whats stopping future goverments from raiding this pot of gold if we get another GFC before 2018 ?
but apart from that, i'm fine with increasing the medicare levy, but i believe its political spin for a current government to defer any tax increase until after the election, and not say how they will fund their plan.
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jane salmon 1:15 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]We all have access to Accident and Emergency for unforseen medical crises. No one wants to go there. Everyone would prefer scheduled appointments with a private specialist and the luxury of a private room in hospital. However, A&E is there when we need it.
Sometimes the damage from an accident is permanent or occurs at birth. The NDIS or DisabiltyCare levy is about ensuring that what happens lifelong is humane and maximises the potential and wellbeing of the disabled accident victim or congenitally disabled person.
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terry adelaide 1:10 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]'Yes, no, but, yes, I've changed my mind again and instead now bet another new TAX all on the future,' said Julia Gillard as she blew more thought bubbles!
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beewa 12:52 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]If most people accept that the idea of supporting disability services is sound but also that it's not a great time to be adding more taxes, then what about rearranging the way we slice the welfare cake?
Perhaps we could cut out the vote-buying and rather needless middle class welfare (baby bonuses etc) to fund something more deserving.
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ponyfaced 12:49 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]We are a good people here in Oz. We commit millions perhaps billions in foreign aid to the unfortunate of the world and in most cases they don't receive it as the hierachy of beauracy depletes these funds for there own selfish intent. What will be any different here...a new Govt Department to handle the ins and outs of mismanagement...and we the good people of Oz will suffer. I knew the day the PM announced this NDIS plan, that in NO way would the Govt be funding it. Its you, me and the people who its meant to benefit that will be hurt by a levy/tax/surcharge, call it what you want....it's theft from our pockets again. Overtaxed and undersupported, that's how the system works.
If the Govt wants to fix the blackhole it has made...stop giving to the rest of the world for a while and protect your own good people.
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amethyst cat 12:45 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]I don't agree with this levy. It would be a better outcome for everyone if we developed a bigger tax base instead of progressively taxing / levying the existing and, potentially shrinking number of taxpayers. 0.5% this year, another 0.5% later and, so on, creeping higher and higher.
I also feel the Federal Government is pushing this through to make its indelible mark, for there is little else they can claim as a success, rather than actually considering harder or more sustainable options.
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love summer time 12:37 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]This would be easier to swallow if they hadn't of wasted so much money. It could of been paid for if money wasn't handed out left right and centre. They wasted, so now we have to fork out. I just find the incompetence gobsmacking.
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reubenthedog 12:17 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]Like everything else the average Aussie worker and their family will fork out more dollars for a scheme they will never be entitled to use. Anybody who works and has savings will quickly told they don't qualify as they are considered rich . The scheme as usual will be open to abuse by the usual suspects along for a free ride via the taxpayer.
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jane salmon 12:01 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]There is efficiency and there are jobs in supporting the disabled. It is good for the economy to having everyone, including carer family members, out and earning.
When I began helping my young sons access autism therapies, I met families who were struggling lifelong with far greater UNMET needs and who were trapped at home instead of working to help those they loved survive with their disabilities.
Australians think of themselves as hard working and compassionate. Many of us waste a dollar each day on the pokies, alcohol, cigarettes or food we don't really need.
Yes, that dollar will be sorely missed from the budgets of the homeless, of those living below the poverty line, single mothers. That dollar represents some public transport or access to a library, food, rent, phone calls or the laundromat.
Yet UNDER THIS LEVY SCHEME each of us can hold our heads high and be proud that we have, in our day to day lives, made a difference to someone more vulnerable than ourselves.
I don't care whether or not my sons' autism is covered. I care that the truly vulnerable have a fair go.
The Medicare style levy for Disability Care means that we are safer and live in a fair community. It's the way to go.
Jane Salmon
Mother to 2 children with autism
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jane salmon 12:01 PM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]Many of us like to donate to disability charities or a cause. Many Australians are aware that many developed nations including Canada, Sweden and the United Kingdom are doing far more, far better for people with disabilities.
The Lucky Country, on the back of a mining boom, can afford a Defence Force and hardware it rarely uses. We can afford to give the mining industry diesel subsidies of $2b per year.
Yet our disability programs are in a mess and have been so for over 40 years.
Knowing that we are taking care of the disabled makes sense. Any of us can have a difficult birth, lose the genetic lottery or fall off a skateboard. Any of us can faint onto a concreted surface and hurt ourselves.
And are we covered lifelong for basic equipment, home psysio, for carers to shower us daily and indeed for basic supported lifelong accommodation if the unthinkable happens?
Many Australians affected by disability will assure you that we are not. There are Aussies who are showered far less often, who are suffering from bedsores in the prime of their lives and who are housed among the elderly.
Early access to therapies and equipment can also reduce community cost down the track. There is an efficiency in getting people up and moving, thinking and learning quickly. The benefits are lifelong. Every dollar spent early saves taxpayers hundreds if not thousands in coming decades.
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stormz 11:55 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]Absolutely agree. I hate to pay tax, but for someone to have more than two showers a week I'm happy to pay 6.76 a week... Less than a coffee and muffin.
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tsj 11:49 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]This seems a fair and equitable response to the budget blowout, and its current and foreseeable difficulty in funding the NDIS. We are a single income family of four, and I have no problem with this decision.
I also wish to say that the budget blowout is a combination of things -- some largely out of the government's control (like the European Carbon price plummet and the mining commodities issue)...the other reason is that, unlike the former (and perhaps future) Liberal governments, Labor has a bigger social conscience and spends money on those who need it most. In their term in government, despite huge odds stacked against them, they have managed to push through an enormous number of social reforms, which will benefit current and future Australians. If there is any criticism to be made against them, it is that their idealism perhaps was overshadowed by unforeseen economic conditions. Not entirely their fault people. For the most part, they have shown responsible economic management and kept us out of the GFC, unlike most other western countries in the world.
Increase GST, abandon the government funded parental leave scheme and other unnecessary middle class welfare and means test everything to avoid wrongful and undeserving payouts. Most of the gifted handouts we, the middle class have received,
although appreciated, are simply not needed. Teach people to live within their means, so that then the government can too.
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gbe 11:47 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]Well prime minister that is one third of the funding you need to get this up where is the rest coming from the States you have already sucked dry.
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natgc 11:32 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]Why is the medicare levy being raised to fund this when this Government has presided over the greatest commodity wave we have ever seen ? Rather than being in a deficit, this Government has spent our resources and still not saved 1 cent for the future. When income goes down, so must spending. This Government has continued to spend with no care at all for the future and continued to throw money away without due diligence. Unfortunately for Labor, they have been forced to win friends being in minority control, however their greed has ruined what should have been the greatest economic decade in our history.
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notinventedhere 11:28 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]You would have to be miserable to not be prepared to pay this very, very small extra for a specific purpose that I have not seen anyone talk against, other than on affordability. This will go a long way to paying for it.
A few more modest tax increases at the high end would also be a good idea - and for the record, I already pay a lot of tax. Just move the top marginal rate up 1 point, and the middle up 0.5 %, and ti would make the deficit evaporate. Major spending cuts and austerity are the path to economic ruin.
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colin67 11:20 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]I would like to see the coalition big buisness levy for parential leave put into the NDIS, that would be a much better use for it. Medicare and big buisness levys to bring in a much better scheme with funding for the future.
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newy9 11:13 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]There is a lot of debate over the bottom line of the NDIS, similar to the National Broadband Network. However, have we dedicated the same level of thought and research to reviewing each element of the NDIS scheme itself? In relation to the NBN, Malcolm Turnbull pointed out that we can save billions while achieving very fast internet speeds if only the first 2/3 (or so) of copper cabling from an exchange is replaced with fibre optic cable; leaving the existing copper the remaining 1/3 of the way - that leads directly into peoples homes. Perhaps there are simple elements of the NDIS that can be altered to save significantly on the bottom line while still achieving a very good health care package. At the end of the day however, if the NDIS is not sustainable, it should be put on hold until it can be funded without the need to increase debt further.
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upperdowner 11:09 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]I will be one of the people paying this levy. I always thought there should be a charge: people should contribute, knowing that they will be covered if they acquire a disability. Good move.
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elite62 11:09 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]I support the idea that the taxpayer make a contribution, but before you slug the taxpayer cut all the things we can no longer afford. Bring back the troops from foreign lands, cut foreign aid, cut the refugee intake on a temporary basis which is currently costing us more and more. In other words close the borders. A bipartisan economic expert committee should look at where further savings could be made. Take this issue out of the political arena.
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colin67 11:08 AM on 01/05/2013
[size=1em]I have no problem paying extra medicare levy even though I'am in private health, it is a good cause and needs doing now, to many times these sort of policy are put off year after year say they got no money never happens, but I know the Liberals will come on board with the levy as soon as they work out where the votes are.
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