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标题: 现在ACS评估对推荐信要求变了，大家都是怎么办的 [打印本页]

作者: candywang 时间: 6-12-2010 22:54
标题: 现在ACS评估对推荐信要求变了，大家都是怎么办的
平级或下级同事写的推荐信无效，只能是上级写，而且这个上级必须是提名职业领域的专家，而且还说只有公司签章是不够的，这是不说所有的推荐信都得找原来公司盖章？这也整地太麻烦了，以前都没有这些规定呀

作者: tyut333 时间: 6-12-2010 23:30
不知道你在哪里听到的这些消息

作者: candywang 时间: 7-12-2010 01:54
标题: ACS官方网站
http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm? ... quentask#experience

作者: karl.lee.2004 时间: 7-12-2010 10:18

原帖由 candywang 于 7-12-2010 02:54 发表

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http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm? ... quentask#experience

22. What information needs to be contained within the employer reference?

This Reference should:

1.show the official company or government department letterhead of the organisation which employed you
2.show in the letterhead the full address of the company, any telephone and fax numbers, email and website addresses
3.be from your supervisor or the manager of the human resources department –references from colleagues at the same level or below are not suitable
4.be signed by an authorised person whose name and position is typed or stamped below the signature – a signature which cannot be identified will not be accepted and include the following information:

除了第3点外，其他的都没变化。

推荐人必须是你的上级（主管），或HR部门的经理。这个要求并不过分吧。至于letterhead，signature之类的，只能说是更规范了，你要说要求更严格了，我也同意。

至于什么“提名职业领域的专家”，原文中并未见提及，应该是误传。

作者: outdance 时间: 7-12-2010 11:00
我没看出有什么变化来原来似乎要求就是要上级的

作者: 新格咪咪 时间: 7-12-2010 12:09
话说这是从什么时候开始的阿？

作者: honggezi 时间: 7-12-2010 13:08
Pre-Application Skills Assessment (PASA) Guidelines for Applicants
1.4.You may submit a reference from your colleague who occupies or has occupied a higher position than you and is an expert in your nominated occupation, within the organisation you were employed at, on a properly signed and witnessed Statutory Declaration. The Statutory Declaration is to detail as a minimum:

the reason/s why your colleague is submitting a Statutory Declaration and
all the necessary detail about your employment experience.

【Important: If you provide a Statutory Declaration with your application, you must also provide some form of corroborative information from a third party for the claims made in the Statutory Declaration.

In this case, you must provide an organisation chart showing upward and downward reporting relationships. All titles must be included. The organisation chart must be verified by your colleague’s immediate supervisor. A company seal is not sufficient, the document must be signed.】
问：请哪位大侠帮忙看看， important 及以下具体是什么要求呀？

作者: candywang 时间: 8-12-2010 00:57
标题: 回复 #4 karl.lee.2004 的帖子
不是误传，请看同一页第27个问题的回答，而且原文中专门用红色标注出来。

27. I cannot provide a reference from my employer. Will you accept anything else?

If you are unable to obtain a Reference from your employer you should submit a reference from your colleague who occupies or has occupied a higher position than you and is an expert in the area closely related to your nominated occupation, within the organisation you were employed at, on a properly signed and witnessed Statutory Declaration.

作者: karl.lee.2004 时间: 8-12-2010 08:50
27. I cannot provide a reference from my employer. Will you accept anything else?

If you are unable to obtain a Reference from your employer you should submit a reference from your colleague who occupies or has occupied a higher position than you and is an expert in the area closely related to your nominated occupation, within the organisation you were employed at, on a properly signed and witnessed Statutory Declaration.

如果你找不到雇主来写推荐信，就要找你的同事（比你职位高，而且是你提名职业内的专家）来写。

所以这个“找专家写推荐信”的要求，其实是有个大前提的，并不是必选项。

作者: outdance 时间: 8-12-2010 10:53
22. What information needs to be contained within the employer reference?

This Reference should:

•show the official company or government department letterhead of the organisation which employed you
•show in the letterhead the full address of the company, any telephone and fax numbers, email and website addresses
•be from your supervisor or the manager of the human resources department –references from colleagues at the same level or below are not suitable
•be signed by an authorised person whose name and position is typed or stamped below the signature – a signature which cannot be identified will not be accepted and include the following information:
• the direct contact number of the person writing the reference

• the exact period of employment

• the required working hours per week

• whether that employment was permanent or temporary

• whether the employment was full-time or part-time

• the position(s) held

• the main duties undertaken

• the salary earned

Positions should not be described by generic titles, but according to the nature of the duties undertaken.

Letters of appointment or contracts are not accepted.

上面reference的要求写得非常清楚be from your supervisor or the manager of the human resources department –references from colleagues at the same level or below are not suitable 是要领导或则HR经理。

而如果 If you are unable to obtain a Reference from your employer you should submit a reference from your colleague who occupies or has occupied a higher position than you and is an expert in the area closely related to your nominated occupation, within the organisation you were employed at, on a properly signed and witnessed Statutory Declaration. 我理解为如果你领导或HR经理不能为你提供，那就找个职位比你高的同事，有blabla的要求啥的。。。
个人并未觉得要求有什么变化，我记得以前的要求就是要领导平级同事是不行的

[ 本帖最后由 outdance 于 8-12-2010 11:55 编辑 ]

作者: 小正正 时间: 20-10-2011 20:32
这个是真的吗？！
难道我同事的推荐信要作废，必须找领导开吗?

作者: cieeeee 时间: 21-10-2011 14:44
上面的同学回答得很清楚了呀~~
领导的话盖公章就行（最好附上卡片）
同事的推荐信要witnessed Statutory Declaration

作者: 小正正 时间: 21-10-2011 15:53

原帖由 cieeeee 于 21-10-2011 15:44 发表

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上面的同学回答得很清楚了呀~~
领导的话盖公章就行（最好附上卡片）
同事的推荐信要witnessed Statutory Declaration

还要盖章呀。不是签名就行吗

作者: cieeeee 时间: 24-10-2011 11:49

原帖由 小正正 于 21-10-2011 16:53 发表

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还要盖章呀。不是签名就行吗

好像是，发个邮件到ACS问下呗

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