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昨天发信问了下SMP申请是否开放，今天得到如下回复。
Currently we are not processing any IT applications until the SMP is finalised.
We are at present processing applications that appear on our current list and the SOL (schedule 3) but they are mainly medical occupations, civil engineers ect.
Dear Joy,
The result letter will contain ANZSCO code in exactly same way as it is presented on DIAC website.
Kind regards,
Helen Martynyuk PhD | Skills Assessment and Certification Manager | Australian Computer Society
Email: helen.martynyuk@acs.org.au | Ph: 02 9299 3666 | Fax: 02 9299 3997
Level 3, 160 Clarence Street | Sydney NSW 2000
www.acs.org.au
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From: Joy An [mailto:***@163.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2010 2:48 PM
To: Helen Martynyuk
Subject: Question about ANZSCO code
Dear Helen
I need some clarification of ANZSCO code. Will the new code include specialisation in your result letter? Like ASCO 2231-79 did before? I am preparing my ACS assessment materials, but I am not sure if I should apply 261312 Developer Programmer with （Java） or just 261312 Developer Programmer . I ask this question because I noticed in NSW state sponsorship list, it mentioned specialisation, so please give me some advice
Thank you
Joy An
原帖由 axyou 于 30-7-2010 15:15 发表
NEW SOUTH WALES STATE MIGRATION PLAN
A Skills in Demand List of occupations that NSW will sponsor from 1 July 2010 for the Skilled Sponsored (176) and Skilled Regional Sponsored (475) visas has been released.
NSW have advised that there may be a small number of additional occupations added to these lists later in the year from occupations not on the new Skilled Occupation List if agreement can be reached with the Commonwealth Government on the terms of a NSW State Migration Plan .
To view this Skills in Demand List of occupations, please click the link below:
http://www.business.nsw.gov.au/m ... ia_STNI_Skilled.pdf
原帖由 axyou 于 30-7-2010 15:32 发表
here may be a small number of
我上面那段等到他猴年马月才会改就是指这段。
这个表就是他SMP的大框架，以后肯定会微调，实际SMP也肯定是个变动的表。
我不是说这个列表的推出就肯定证明了将来会不会给某个co ...
Currently we are not processing any IT applications until the SMP is finalised.
原帖由 amosmis 于 30-7-2010 15:53 发表
本身Programmer就已经很广泛，难道写Fortran不是Programmer吗？但现在需要吗？所以，261312之后就极有可能跟个special，而261399泛指IT类的工作，应该是test、security、dba之类，当然，同样道理，261399之后也可能跟 ...
Dear Joy,
Please refer this enquiry to DIAC.
Kind regards,
Helen
________________________________
From: Joy An [mailto:***@163.com]
Sent: Thu 15/07/2010 7:36 PM
To: Helen Martynyuk
Subject: Re:RE: Question about ANZSCO code
Dear Helen
Thank you for your reply.
I have another question base on what you said. The 261399 code is in the schedule 4 of DIAC, and it is for SMP. Since SMP has not come out, may I ask if the 261399 will have a specialisation? Because without specialisation, any applicant can apply the 261312 Developer Programmer, even he is using very old language like powerbuilder. If it is the case, how can DIAC prioritize applicants of ICT?
If the 261399 have specialisation, I will consider to apply this code, like 2231-79(xxx)
Joy
原帖由 amosmis 于 30-7-2010 16:15 发表
“Helen就含糊其辞了，为什么呢？”，答案她已经给你了。她是Helen，不是DIAC！
关键是DIAC，而不是某某人。别太绝对了，难道SMP只要261399，而不要developer programmer、softeware programmer？凡事都有可能。而且 ...
原帖由 amosmis 于 30-7-2010 16:15 发表
“Helen就含糊其辞了，为什么呢？”，答案她已经给你了。她是Helen，不是DIAC！
关键是DIAC，而不是某某人。别太绝对了，难道SMP只要261399，而不要developer programmer、softeware programmer？凡事都有可能。而且 ...
今天看了正式的ASCO到ANZSCO代码对照表
发现一个问题，原来在CSL上的2231-79 (specialist in xxx)都从schedule 3表格上消失了，而schedule 3是对应于offshore 175移民的，(onshore我不知道签证类别是啥，885？)
而针对原来2231-79的各项子类别 SAP / Linux / C++ / CISSP / Oracle / Network Security 等的市场需求不会凭空一下子消失，而IT此次上榜的 Software Engineer / Developer Programmer等都是对应于ASCO时代原来的三无。
比如此次位于Schedule 3上面的IT职业，都是原来的三无
2231-13 Systems Designer 261112 Systems Analyst
2231-15 Software Designer 261313 Software Engineer
2231-19 Systems Programmer 261312 Developer Programmer
看上面的对应关系，原来的2231-13/15/19都是原来没有办法上CSL的IT评估的职位。
那么是否可以大胆猜测一下，针对州担保和其他担保类的Schedule 4才承担了原来CSL的职能
那么有TX要说，Schedule 4的职位要比Schedule 3多很多啊
对，我的猜测是目前出现在schedule 4上的职位会被有选择的入选各个州担保名单。从而通过最终的州担保名单来实现原来CSL的功能，也就是说州政府通过市场需求来制定名单，调节职业类别。联想到本次改革，就是要增加担保类职位，减少独立移民，体现market driven，即使上不了schedule 3的职位，只要有市场需求，也可能移民
而我们知道，州担保名单可以自行每年renew，而schedule 3 SOL的renew要走很多法律程序，所以本人大胆猜测，DIAC为了实时反映市场需求，而又不必走冗长的法律程序，通过担保来筛选职业，担保 schedule 4以及最终的担保名单才是终极杀器
光在S3中出现而不在任何最终州担保列表里面出现的SOL职位，就相当于原来的3无，慢慢排队等
当然你可以说我屁股决定脑袋，但是是否存在这种可能呢？我觉得可能很大
[ 本帖最后由 revstar 于 25-6-2010 19:20 编辑 ]
70%或者90%都不叫绝对，是否不和逻辑？
关键是DIAC，而不是某某人。别太绝对了，
原帖由 viphi 于 30-7-2010 17:42 发表
现在的争执其实说白了就是 拿到79决定等SMP的人 和 决定review的人 这两个群体的利益冲突。在我看来，其实本来没什么利益冲突的，政策现在不明朗，大家各走各的路拼拼RP好了，最后决定权在ACS和DIAC，论坛上谁说的也 ...
原帖由 viphi 于 30-7-2010 17:42 发表
现在的争执其实说白了就是 拿到79决定等SMP的人 和 决定review的人 这两个群体的利益冲突。在我看来，其实本来没什么利益冲突的，政策现在不明朗，大家各走各的路拼拼RP好了，最后决定权在ACS和DIAC，论坛上谁说的也 ...
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