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标题: 反对党计划削减近半移民配额，主要削减技术移民 [打印本页]

作者: TtiGeR 时间: 25-7-2010 09:35
标题: 反对党计划削减近半移民配额，主要削减技术移民
今日各大媒体头条

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-el ... 20100724-10pk9.html

Coalition to cut migrant numbers
STEPHANIE PEATLING
July 25, 2010
The Coalition is preparing to announce dramatic cuts to the migration program as it seeks to outmanoeuvre the government on population and immigration.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is due to make a major announcement on immigration as early as today and is believed to be considering cuts of more than 110,000 places a year - most from the skilled migration program.

''There will be a substantial reduction and that figure has been mentioned several times,'' a senior campaign strategist told The Sun-Herald.

Another insider said the timing of the announcement was still being worked on but it was possible Mr Abbott would nominate the figure as soon as tonight in the debate with Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

Naming the figure would play to voters' concerns that Labor is not prepared to back its statements on population with action, another strategist said.

''Julia Gillard is dog whistling, making tough noises, but won't name any figures. What we're picking up is: it's tough noises but there's no action to back it up. There's not even a substantial review,'' a senior Liberal Party player said.

Liberal strategists believe a commitment to cut immigration would be controversial but help the Coalition's election chances.

''We're certainly picking up that Labor is absolutely vulnerable on this,'' one strategist said.

But it would anger business, which says it needs immigration in order to keep up productivity.

Polling for both parties shows people in crucial outer metropolitan seats are particularly worried about population and immigration, and see the issues as linked.

Sustainable Population Minister Tony Burke said yesterday people needed to concentrate on the distribution of Australia's population.

''One of the problems years ago when it was first tried was decentralisation meant going to areas where there weren't jobs,'' Mr Burke said.

''That has now changed. The mining boom means that in the regions there are jobs, and broadband being rolled out around the country takes away the tyranny of distance for a whole lot of other industries as well.''

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison would not comment on a specific reduction in numbers but said the size of the immigration program had to be addressed.

''There's only one lever left to pull. That's [immigration] the only thing that will make a difference,'' Mr Morrison said.

Mr Abbott spent yesterday in Perth and Kalgoorlie, where he continued to highlight concerns about asylum seekers and the mining tax.

Despite Labor's strong showing in the opinion polls, party officials are concerned about its support in Queensland and Western Australia.

Mr Abbott announced $50 million for communities to install security cameras to prevent crime.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/25/2963428.htm

Coalition plans to slash migration levels

The Federal Opposition says it would cut migration levels by almost half if it wins the election.

The Coalition says it would reduce Australia's net overseas migration from nearly 300,000 people per year to just 170,000 if it wins the election.

The Opposition's immigration spokesman, Scott Morrison, has indicated the number of skilled worker visas will be protected.

"We are very keen to ensure a strong skilled migration program and one that particularly addresses the needs of regional areas," he said.

"We need to get our population growth rate back to - at least - the long term average."

Population Minister Tony Burke has accused the Opposition of using a sneaky political trick.

He says migration levels are already forecast to fall even further than the Coalition's target.

"By 2011/2012, it's forecast that we'll be at 145,000," he said.

"All he's done is take existing projections over the next 12 months or so and call them his policy."

The Coalition will detail more of its policy later today, including which visa categories will be affected.

In April it announced it would set targets to stop the country reaching a projected population of 36 million by 2050.

Treasury figures showed Australia's population was set to reach 36 million by 2050 but the Opposition said that was too high.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said then that a Coalition government would expand the Productivity Commission and have it review population sustainability on a yearly basis.

It would use the commission's advice to establish what it calls a population growth band target.

[ 本帖最后由 TtiGeR 于 25-7-2010 09:43 编辑 ]

作者: TtiGeR 时间: 25-7-2010 09:58
目前的消息主要是：
1、要将年度配额从30万削减到17万，约削减13万（一说11万）
2、削减以技术移民为主
3、要保护雇主担保类签证
综合起来看的话，如果反对党上台普通技术移民配额将所剩无几

尽管反对党尚未正式宣布细节，但各大媒体头版报道不会是无中生有。现在普遍预计Tony会在今晚和吉拉德辩论时透露具体数据。

但愿工党不会跟进… - -||

作者: theendjustice 时间: 25-7-2010 10:02
用减少移民政策拉选票，看样子这招可能有效，工党也会效仿。

作者: madrista 时间: 25-7-2010 10:03
太恐怖了！

不知道如果削减的话，今年的配额会不会受影响？

作者: 大鼻子狐狸 时间: 25-7-2010 10:11
标题: 什么都要趁早
移民也一样。不确定因素随时会有

作者: pinxinge 时间: 25-7-2010 10:57
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原帖由 TtiGeR 于 25-7-2010 09:35 发表

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今日各大媒体头条

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/coalition-to-cut-migrant-numbers-20100724-10pk9.html

Coalition to cut migrant numbers
STEPHANIE PEATLING
July 25, 2010
The Coalition is ...

词汇学习
outmanoeuvre /ˌaʊtməˈnuːvə(r)/
If you outmanoeuvre someone, you gain an advantage over them in a particular situation by behaving in a clever and skilful way.

decentralisation
[ˌdiːsentrəlaiˈzeiʃən]
decentralization: the spread of power away from the center to local branches or governments

tyranny
/ˈtɪrəni/
You can describe something that you have to use or have as a tyranny if you think it is undesirable or unpleasant.

lever
/ˈliːvə(r)/
A lever is a handle or bar that is attached to a piece of machinery and which you push or pull in order to operate the machinery.

asylum
/əˈsaɪləm/
If a government gives a person from another country asylum, they allow them to stay, usually because they are unable to return home safely for political reasons.

[ 本帖最后由 pinxinge 于 25-7-2010 11:03 编辑 ]

作者: flydragon132 时间: 25-7-2010 11:07
为什么不多招人来干活呢？我要是上台了，就告诉全世界能干活的创造价值的多来澳洲，澳洲来更多年轻力壮的干活的有什么不好？

作者: pinxinge 时间: 25-7-2010 11:12
提示: 作者被禁止或删除, 无法发言 slash /slæʃ/
To slash something such as costs or jobs means to reduce them by a large amount.

sneaky
/ˈsniːki/
If you describe someone as sneaky, you disapprove of them because they do things secretly rather than openly.

treasury
/ˈtreʒəri/
In Britain, the United States, and some other countries, the Treasury is the government department that deals with the country's finances.

作者: pinxinge 时间: 25-7-2010 11:16
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原帖由 flydragon132 于 25-7-2010 11:07 发表

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为什么不多招人来干活呢？我要是上台了，就告诉全世界能干活的创造价值的多来澳洲，澳洲来更多年轻力壮的干活的有什么不好？

To make the society more stable, the country need time to ensure the new migrants can be accepted by the society.

作者: zwbs88 时间: 25-7-2010 11:25
昨天也关注了这则新闻，个人持保留意见，说说而已，未必可以一刀切下去。哪怕是真下手了也需要一段很长的时间才能到达预计目标，那时候应该也下来了。

作者: madrista 时间: 25-7-2010 11:35
应该今年的配额会保持不变。但是无论哪个政党上台，明年都不好说。。。

作者: zwbs88 时间: 25-7-2010 11:40
请问一下TtiGaR，按现在政策，分在priority list schedule 3里面的申请人需要等多久才能下来？望解答！

作者: benladeng414 时间: 25-7-2010 11:52
标题: 回复 #11 madrista 的帖子
"10.07.31 Back to IELTS, Aim to Overall 6（不能退考了.....）"

呵呵，你还要去考的啊？

作者: dfer 时间: 25-7-2010 12:37
30+的会越来越杯具的, 澳洲大陆上满满得都是杯具啊...

作者: cx_oem 时间: 25-7-2010 12:52
移民无望了啊.30+了啊，洲担保也停了

作者: melbourner1978 时间: 25-7-2010 13:03
昨天说主要削减家庭团聚类和留学类，没说技术移民类啊，这两个新闻冲突

作者: gobre 时间: 25-7-2010 13:10
悲剧啊，估计明年的澳洲就会像现在的加拿大一样

作者: redzod1 时间: 25-7-2010 13:22
这两个新闻自己都是冲突的，一个说要主要削减来自skilled migration program，另外一个说number of skilled worker visas will be protected.

搞什么搞，一点都不专业

作者: 二房二厅 时间: 25-7-2010 13:28
是冲突
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is due to make a major announcement on immigration as early as today and is believed to be considering cuts of more than 110,000 places a year - most from the skilled migration program.

The Opposition's immigration spokesman, Scott Morrison, has indicated the number of skilled worker visas will be protected.

"We are very keen to ensure a strong skilled migration program and one that particularly addresses the needs of regional areas," he said.

作者: dark008 时间: 25-7-2010 13:36
标题: 回复 #1 TtiGeR 的帖子
疯了，不过Y的这样胡闹应该也上不了台。

现在的技术移民政策已经改良了很多，吸纳的都是能用脑子给澳洲赚钱的人，如果不从现在开始用脑子赚钱，澳洲这样的富裕的生活单靠卖矿支持不了长久的。

作者: melbourner1978 时间: 25-7-2010 13:46
从大选前形势来看，tony的这种移民政策非常对local选民的口

作者: tkl888 时间: 25-7-2010 14:58
那里只是LOCAL，不少移民也支持的。

作者: TtiGeR 时间: 25-7-2010 16:34

原帖由 redzod1 于 25-7-2010 13:22 发表

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这两个新闻自己都是冲突的，一个说要主要削减来自skilled migration program，另外一个说number of skilled worker visas will be protected.

搞什么搞，一点都不专业

两者并不冲突

后一则新闻里的skilled worker visas指雇主担保，用词不是非常准确，因为平时移民相关的报道总是熟悉政策的记者写，但大选期间不太熟悉移民政策的记者也会抢发报道。

最新的消息里详细解释了“Employer-nominated migrant places - aimed at addressing skills shortages - will not be cut.” http://www.smh.com.au/federal-el ... 20100725-10q4o.html

原因也很简单，如果削减雇主担保，企业主肯定不满，所以这个肯定要保留的。独立技术移民基本没什么选民在乎，肯定是开刀的首要对象。至于亲属团聚类，个人认为不会有很大削减，否则会引起部分选民不满的。

[ 本帖最后由 TtiGeR 于 25-7-2010 16:40 编辑 ]

作者: gdzack 时间: 25-7-2010 18:36

原帖由 TtiGeR 于 25-7-2010 16:34 发表

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两者并不冲突

后一则新闻里的skilled worker visas指雇主担保，用词不是非常准确，因为平时移民相关的报道总是熟悉政策的记者写，但大选期间不太熟悉移民政策的记者也会抢发报道。

最新的消息里详细解释了 ...

亲属团聚才有几个？几个是能干活的？很多基本来了就是吃福利的，独立技术移民不会砍多少，大不了提高雅思，否则会影响澳洲经济，有几个雇主有耐心去办雇主提名？主要砍的肯定是留学移民，因为以前太容易了。

作者: DROUGHT 时间: 25-7-2010 19:04

原帖由 gdzack 于 25-7-2010 18:36 发表

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亲属团聚才有几个？几个是能干活的？很多基本来了就是吃福利的，独立技术移民不会砍多少，大不了提高雅思，否则会影响澳洲经济，有几个雇主有耐心去办雇主提名？主要砍的肯定是留学移民，因为以前太容易了。

coalition的态度是，只保留雇主担保和457TR，别的都要裁减。

作者: 二房二厅 时间: 25-7-2010 19:57
拉选票的口号，等真正上台后，要考虑澳洲整体经济的

作者: MacroJ 时间: 25-7-2010 19:59
难民呢？

作者: TtiGeR 时间: 25-7-2010 20:02

原帖由 gdzack 于 25-7-2010 18:36 发表

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亲属团聚才有几个？几个是能干活的？很多基本来了就是吃福利的，独立技术移民不会砍多少，大不了提高雅思，否则会影响澳洲经济，有几个雇主有耐心去办雇主提名？主要砍的肯定是留学移民，因为以前太容易了。

留学移民听上去多其实数量很少从GSM的backlog里看 8成是境外申请..

作者: cwb1000 时间: 25-7-2010 20:07
其实大家来了就知道了，澳洲有多少职业是当地找不到人呢？可能工程类的会比较多吧，尤其是要经常出差，并且去条件比较差的现场的，因为这类活对当地人来说累，而且钱也不多。像技工类的，多得是人干，水管工、空调工工资还高的不得了，当地人想干都要学习好多证书什么的。而且对于雇主来说，如果能找到当地人，英语又好，又好沟通，为什么要请一个外来的人呢，再说你简历上写的东西，他都不知道是真是假，哪怕你性格不好，品德不好，他都不知道。虽然大部分的人还是很勤劳、很善良的，但是怎么能让他们相信呢？这个是个大问题，还有就是英语的问题。这些是我来这里找工的亲身感受，不知道其他人的处境如何？

作者: yangyuege 时间: 25-7-2010 21:08
话说cwb，你最后找到专业工了？看你签名，应该已经开始上班了吧？恭喜恭喜～～～

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