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标题: 没有医学背景的人学习护理困难大吗？ [打印本页]

作者: 冷月葬花 时间: 19-5-2009 17:11
标题: 没有医学背景的人学习护理困难大吗？
请正在学习护理和做护士的姐妹们谈谈，没有医学背景的人学习护理困难大吗？本人本科是学的工程，从事过设计，但是做医生一直是以前的梦想啊，现在做不了医生，做护士也可以，至少可以园一下自己的梦，但是又怕，怕过不了解剖那一关，胆子也小，姐妹们谈谈，胆子小的人能做护士吗

作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 17:16
已经是护士的人，在学护理之前，也没有接触过这方面的专业。
就像你做过设计，但是在高考之前，没学过工程一样。
解剖是一门课，医院里不是每个科室天天见血开刀的

作者: 冷月葬花 时间: 19-5-2009 17:27
楼上这位回答的好专业，你在做护士吗

作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 17:42
标题: 回复 #3 冷月葬花的帖子
不做

.....但是认识不少这边的护士

作者: 冷月葬花 时间: 19-5-2009 17:44
哦，那你也比我了解的多，谢谢你，还有取得澳洲注册护士后能去美国工作吗

作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 17:50
这个....不知道了

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 19-5-2009 18:01
I saw the textbooks in the last week. they are so difficult and tons of words I have never known it before.

作者: zhl03 时间: 19-5-2009 19:00
不用怕那些医学术语,本地人也不见得认识.就词汇量来说,大家都是同一个起跑线,我们只是输在口语上.

作者: 刘叔 时间: 19-5-2009 19:13
保持关注中。

作者: 冷月葬花 时间: 19-5-2009 19:22
背单词倒不怕，就是怕那些。。。。。。

作者: 冷月葬花 时间: 19-5-2009 19:42
谢谢刘叔关注，难道您也有心学护理？也是个不错的选择呢

作者: 刘叔 时间: 19-5-2009 20:24
标题: 回复 #11 冷月葬花的帖子

不是我啦，给我老婆看看，学了找个稳定的工作，然后我可以去打拼

作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 22:26
男护士很受欢迎的哦

作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 22:27
男护士很受欢迎的哦

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 19-5-2009 22:43
I am a man but now ready to think about studying nursing degree

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作者: dandanma 时间: 19-5-2009 22:46
不错哦，有个朋友以前在国内在税务局工作，去美国后就念了个护士，一周工作40小时，夜班一小时40美元

作者: dandanma 时间: 19-5-2009 22:47
忘了补充一下，这位朋友也是男滴

作者: 流浪南半球 时间: 19-5-2009 22:49
我现在正在读aged care，我感觉这个课程，如果每天只上2个小时的课是可以接受的，也就是你参加tafe的应该可以的。
如果你参加一些比较专业的机构作的培训，2~3个月的课程的，我感觉上课5个小时，确实是不轻松的。

很多当地的俚语和口音就上来了，你可能并不是不懂，而是不知道这个音和哪个单词有联系
还有，以前没有过背景不要紧，但是需要比别人更努力的补充知识。
btw，通过这种可得学习，可能你的听力现在已经没有什么大问题了，唯一的问题就是口语！

多多练习吧！

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 19-5-2009 22:51
It's a dirty job but at this moment, as a first generation of immigrant, I think about spending 2 years to purchase a steady career during the recession.

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作者: zzmmy 时间: 19-5-2009 23:32
读书的时候去医院实习，英语不好交流不善，医院的人fail掉这门的。学护理的时候除了去医院实习还要回家写作业，那字数那reference绝对比学商科的作业要求高。很累的，有些人没时间打工，学费也高。护士学完了考牌照要雅思四个7，这也是一个坎儿。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 20-5-2009 00:05

原帖由 zzmmy 于 19-5-2009 22:32 发表

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读书的时候去医院实习，英语不好交流不善，医院的人fail掉这门的。学护理的时候除了去医院实习还要回家写作业，那字数那reference绝对比学商科的作业要求高。很累的，有些人没时间打工，学费也高。护士学完了考牌照要 ...

I checked the website of nursing board, if you study nursing degree at oz for two years, you don't need the ielts examination. Is that ture? I have applied the degree of nursing(graduate entry), which just 2yrs full-time studying. How hard is it? cheers!

[ 本帖最后由 sunyi_yx06 于 19-5-2009 23:06 编辑 ]

作者: sensen 时间: 20-5-2009 11:52
yes !
a little hard.

作者: daxiao 时间: 20-5-2009 19:08
标题: 回复 #5 冷月葬花的帖子
不能直接去，护士执照不是通用的，每个国家都有相应的考试程序．去美国得先通过美国护士执照考试，有了执照才有可能．

作者: Sally_Zoe 时间: 20-5-2009 22:53
听说最近nursing degree读完以后注册的时候需要雅思的4个7了，所以慎重选择。。。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 21-5-2009 07:57
越来越没信心了，看了course structure,就两个字，郁闷

，真的好难

作者: tttkoo 时间: 21-5-2009 13:39
楼主的ID去做护理的话，凉凉的，怕怕的

作者: 李大锤 时间: 21-5-2009 15:22
某房东，以前在国内做Delphi （IT）开发，到澳洲后艰难度日，难找工作。
最后成功转型当护理去了，实习期间还有钱发，挺爽。

还没开始正式工作房子都买了。。看起来确实走上了正轨。。

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作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 21-5-2009 16:59
Delphi 4.0,5.0，2001年的时候我也干过，那是刚刚毕业，往事不堪回首啊，

作者: sensen 时间: 3-6-2009 17:58
护士的工资是很好的。如果你毕业后和中介做￥60每小时。

作者: 无声叹息 时间: 3-6-2009 19:44

原帖由 sensen 于 3-6-2009 16:58 发表

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护士的工资是很好的。如果你毕业后和中介做￥60每小时。

嘻嘻，是$60吧，我听到一个比较夸张的故事，一注册护士同时给两家中介打工，在几个不同的医院做，很卖命那种，一年十几万澳元。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 3-6-2009 20:06
护士不是太好学的，如果要学的，先看看他们的书，没有背景，保你有看天书的感觉。

作者: Sally_Zoe 时间: 4-6-2009 01:53

原帖由 无声叹息 于 3-6-2009 18:44 发表

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嘻嘻，是$60吧，我听到一个比较夸张的故事，一注册护士同时给两家中介打工，在几个不同的医院做，很卖命那种，一年十几万澳元。

是这样，俺以前一个TAFE的同学，两家中介打工，是赚到钱，但是退税的时候，两份收入加到一起，她被要求补交税款8千！！怄到吐血。。。

作者: daxiao 时间: 4-6-2009 02:16
如果是TAFE毕业，顶多EN，赚不到哪去，补交８０００只能说她不会报税，应该找个会计师帮她．

作者: hqx888 时间: 4-6-2009 09:40
更正一下我以前的误解,澳洲护理(EN,RN)是包含中国护士和护工两个工种的职责的.
是要搞清洁和搞卫生,给病人洗澡等等的.
学习也很难的.

好像很多州规定两年以上澳洲的护理课程毕业后是免考雅思可以注册的.

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作者: sensen 时间: 5-6-2009 12:37
RN是注册护士的意思。没有太多的工作要做。如果你毕业后到眼耳鼻喉医院工作那可就非常的轻松了。病人都是自己搞定一切的。又没有危险，非常的爽的。
护士的工资真的很高。因为护士工会很厉害。他们几乎每年都要游行，要求加工资。一年十几万是可以达到的。但是要能吃苦呀

一般情况一年8--9万是很容易的。

我们最后一年就毕业的同学，银行主动的联系你，3-6个月不需要任何利息可以开新车走的那种贷款。所以我们老师说，第3年的学生开的车比他们都好。

作者: sensen 时间: 5-6-2009 12:42
TAFE 毕业的是EN。没有多少钱的。

比RN要少。

作者: binghan84 时间: 5-6-2009 13:04
提示: 作者被禁止或删除, 无法发言 越看越迷茫，我在国内做护理有四年的时间了，我以为我过去了，只要去读语言学校和技术学校，考个RN就可以去打工了，看上去比较复杂！还是看看再说！

作者: zzmmy 时间: 5-6-2009 18:03

原帖由 sensen 于 5-6-2009 11:37 发表

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RN是注册护士的意思。没有太多的工作要做。如果你毕业后到眼耳鼻喉医院工作那可就非常的轻松了。病人都是自己搞定一切的。又没有危险，非常的爽的。
护士的工资真的很高。因为护士工会很厉害。他们几乎每年都要游行 ...

我咋知道的刚毕业的护士，一年最低３－４万涅。干了好几年后才能８－９万涅。一般创收是同时干２－３家医院，白班＋晚班／周末班可以在几年之内还清房贷。而且似乎没有ＰＲ之前是不可以找ａｇｅｎｃｙ的。

作者: zzmmy 时间: 5-6-2009 18:06
总之，护士或者护工确实是稳定收入的一个好职业，但就是在干之前付出很多

作者: hqx888 时间: 5-6-2009 18:10
不要说得这么离谱,我老婆就读RN的.一年5-6万而以,很脏很累的活.要么6AM-3PM,要么2PM-10PM,SHIFT WORK, 没法照顾小孩的.
读书又幸苦.我老婆在中国考到注册医生排照,照理理论对她太小儿科了,但英语是个坎,我又经常出差,她还要带两个小孩.太苦了,前几周,她都不想读下去了.好多人没法准时毕业的,好大学淘汰更高.
我老婆学TAFE LEVEL 4 FOR MEDICAL SCIENCE时前两周就有1/5的学生学不下去退学了,半年后又有1/5没拿到证书因有的功课没通过要重修.

大家不要忽悠人.当然,抱着拿PR的目的是另一回事.

个人认为:只要IELTS不是靠机经能每科拿到7分,不管是中国学历还是澳洲学历,澳洲找工是小菜一碟.

如在澳洲读完大学后,英语还不好,论文,作业是抄的或别人代写的,那就白读了,在中国和澳洲都不易找到高薪工作,除非有后台或技术实在太强,运气实在太好.

在澳洲要读好大学,学好英语就应多与本地人混.少.....

在澳洲读大学,学院的选择也很重要,中国,澳洲都知道对方那个学校是好学校,那个是野鸡.shi

[ 本帖最后由 hqx888 于 5-6-2009 21:21 编辑 ]

作者: hqx888 时间: 5-6-2009 18:18
澳洲好职业多了去了,但护士不是好职业.
我老婆读完护士后我就很可能不会让她作那种没办法管小孩的RN.拿个学位而以,学好英语而以.

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作者: zzmmy 时间: 5-6-2009 21:09
标题: 回复 #41 hqx888 的帖子
为了学好英语选的护士专业，这investment也太。。。。。

作者: zzmmy 时间: 5-6-2009 21:10
标题: 回复 #40 hqx888 的帖子
还有夜班，早上7点下班，第二天早上6点-3点。生活很不规律

作者: hqx888 时间: 5-6-2009 22:26
没法,她选的,读了一年,还差一年半就毕业了,
不读书窝在家带人英语总不会上去.女人在家不出去干活没有自信不好.成天胡思乱想.
能读书拿学位都是好事.

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作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 5-6-2009 23:55
个人认为RN是个辛苦的职业，并且不象其他的职业那么光鲜，不过对新移民站稳脚跟，立足oz，不失一个选择。

作者: zzmmy 时间: 5-6-2009 23:59
标题: 回复 #44 hqx888 的帖子
原来PR与international students的学费差这么多呀！我听朋友讲的今年本科护理有的课一门涨到6000多。所以呀，护士工资待遇好，工会跟政府要钱涨工资，钱哪来的，羊毛出在羊身上。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 6-6-2009 00:04
CSP的话，一年4500+， and then 80%

作者: hbb2005 时间: 6-6-2009 00:14
现在学护士不见得是个好职业，学习比较累，TAFE还不能移民，非要本科毕业的。TAFE 一年学费14000，本科两年得要50000，如果是要移民的成本太高，风险太大（淘汰率高50%）。想学护士移民的要想清楚了。现在好象注册RN的话要4个7才行。

作者: hqx888 时间: 6-6-2009 00:49
两年以上的澳大利亚的全日制大学或学院的护理课程并毕业了也可以认为英语达到要求的

From: http://www.freeoz.org/forum/view ... p;page=1#pid2055782

English Language Requirements for Applicants Educated to the Standard for Registration or Enrolment as Nurses or Midwives in Australia
Section 31 of the Nurses and Midwives Act directs that a person is not entitled to be registered or enrolled unless she/he proves to the satisfaction of the Board that she/he has a knowledge of the English language adequate for the practice of nursing or midwifery, as applicable.

Language is an essential component of safe practice and the Board considers that the standard, which it has identified, is necessary for protection of the public.

Any applicant for registration or enrolment may be required to undertake an English language test.

The following applies to applicants who have been educated as nurses or midwives in Australia.  The requirements for applicants educated in other countries are listed separately.

Adequacy of English language for nursing or midwifery practice may be demonstrated by submission of evidence of one of the following:

Completion of the NSW Higher School Certificate examination and attainment of a grade of Band 4 or higher in English (Standard, Advanced or Extension).  See Secondary School Examinations Accepted as Evidence of English Language Competence.

OR
Completion of secondary school elsewhere in Australia and achievement in school examinations at a standard accepted by the Board as equivalent to the New South Wales standard. See Secondary School Examinations Accepted as Evidence of English Language Competence.

OR
Evidence of completion of at least two years full-time or full-time equivalent secondary, vocational or higher education in Australia
and
Certification by the senior nurse or midwife academic (i.e. Dean, Head of School or Head Teacher) at the Australian education institution, recognised by the Board and where a nursing or midwifery course was undertaken, that "the applicant for registration/enrolment has been assessed clinically, and in that clinical assessment has demonstrated a knowledge of English language adequate for nursing practice or midwifery practice (as applicable)".
OR
Previous registration or enrolment as a nurse or midwife in New South Wales.

OR
  Achievement, within the two year period prior to application, of a minimum of 7 on each band (reading, writing, speaking and listening) in the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) academic modules.

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作者: hqx888 时间: 6-6-2009 00:55

原帖由 zzmmy 于 5-6-2009 22:59 发表

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原来PR与international students的学费差这么多呀！我听朋友讲的今年本科护理有的课一门涨到6000多。所以呀，护士工资待遇好，工会跟政府要钱涨工资，钱哪来的，羊毛出在羊身上。

我们交了税的,

读完后工作也得交税的.

[ 本帖最后由 hqx888 于 5-6-2009 23:58 编辑 ]

作者: sensen 时间: 6-6-2009 20:18
我的上课的材料上写得很清楚，（FRAME WORK）
毕业后第一年的护士的基本工资是4万6。不包括夜班和其它。
第二年的护士的基本工资是4万7。写得很清楚。不包括夜班和其它。
第三年的基本的收入是6.7万。也是基本的。因为有夜班所以一定比这个基本的数目要高。而且这是全职的工资。如果和中介做会高很多。不知道你老婆怎么就那么少呢？？？

作者: suiyee 时间: 29-7-2009 20:26
我现在正在澳洲读RN，以前也不是医学背景，我读的是graduate entry的那种，两年。。刚读了一个学期。。我的感觉是，只有以下三种人适合读RN：

－有医学背景而且英语底子不是非常差的人，这里的医学背景不一定是指你以前必须是医生或者护士背景，也包括例如药学，医学工程，医学影像，或者预防医学等等。。我身边很多同学都是有医学背景的，虽然英文暂时不是非常好，但她们以前有相关背景，读起来会没这么沮丧。英语水平要基本在雅思6或以上。很诚实的说，低于这个水平的人是读不下去的。

－没有医学背景，但英语水平高，雅思在6.5或7以上。。我们班上有一些同学，她们以前是英语专业的，或者本身是英语老师，虽然没有专业背景知识，但英语好会帮了很大的忙。。读书的时候你会发现，大量的阅读和论文写作，以及实习时候大量的口语交流，如果英语不好又没有背景，你是吃不消的。

－没有医学背景英语又不好的人怎么办？？只有一个办法，就是你必须要非常勤奋了。。别人100分勤奋，你必须200分勤奋。。没有这个决心的人不建议读。

我这里说的是读RN，并非EN，EN要求没这么严格，读RN要写很多论文，每个星期有很多tutorial，需要讨论，必须预习，看大量的砖头厚的书。。有时候你看一个小时，才看了3－5页，因为大量的医学单词你不会，要查字典。。但你必须每门课每本书每星期大概有30－50页书。。你可以计算那个阅读量。。第一个学期刚开始是比较辛苦，熬过了就好了。。

第一个学期我们班本来有150多人，后来只剩下90多人，有60多人退掉了，大部分是因为读不下去，有小部分是因为读了之后觉得不喜欢。。现在新政策，RN注册必须要4个7了，这个学期又有一部分人打算退学改读其他的了。。

总而言之，护理不像想象中这么容易读，澳洲的大学进去容易出来难，护理也比一般的专业要求更加高。。选择之前，请慎而重之。。

但读出来就海阔天空了，收入也是很好的，工作也容易找。

作者: young-sailor 时间: 30-7-2009 12:58

原帖由 sunyi_yx06 于 3-6-2009 19:06 发表

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护士不是太好学的，如果要学的，先看看他们的书，没有背景，保你有看天书的感觉。

这么说没意思啦, 你来看看土木工程的教科书, 我还包你有看天顶星文的感觉呢?

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 30-7-2009 21:25
标题: 回复 #53 young-sailor 的帖子
当然隔行如隔山，不过医科是特别难学，我觉得本地人也有很多不知道。我在新西兰学过IT,在国内学过电气工程，至少这三个比起来，它是最难的（词汇上）。

作者: young-sailor 时间: 30-7-2009 22:58

原帖由 sunyi_yx06 于 30-7-2009 20:25 发表

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当然隔行如隔山，不过医科是特别难学，我觉得本地人也有很多不知道。我在新西兰学过IT,在国内学过电气工程，至少这三个比起来，它是最难的（词汇上）。

专业词汇对于母语者都不知道太正常了. 土木工程最基础的一个概念, Moment. 你问问本地人知不知道?

这两个最基本的术语positive moment和negative moment本地人不以为是"正负时刻"才奇了怪了.

拿本地人知不知道来衡量学科难度.....

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 31-7-2009 02:32

原帖由 young-sailor 于 30-7-2009 21:58 发表

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专业词汇对于母语者都不知道太正常了. 土木工程最基础的一个概念, Moment. 你问问本地人知不知道?

这两个最基本的术语positive moment和negative moment本地人不以为是"正负时刻"才奇了怪了.

拿本地人知不 ...

hehe,不争了，好像sailor想当医生啊，那等你以后学的时候，自己比较吧，不过可能你的英语很强的也不一定。

作者: sensen 时间: 31-7-2009 15:18
this semester i pass all subject.

but i really study hard.

只有一个办法，就是你必须要非常勤奋了。。别人100分勤奋，你必须200分勤奋。。
没有这个决心的人不建议读。

这个学期有一部分人打算退学了。。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 31-7-2009 15:50
yes. I will. 只进无退，路是我选的，要对自己负责。

作者: tm_stone 时间: 31-7-2009 16:21

原帖由 suiyee 于 29-7-2009 19:26 发表

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我现在正在澳洲读RN，以前也不是医学背景，我读的是graduate entry的那种，两年。。刚读了一个学期。。我的感觉是，只有以下三种人适合读RN：

－有医学背景而且英语底子不是非常差的人，这里的医学背景不一定是指 ...

说的比较细！

作者: hqx888 时间: 31-7-2009 17:59

原帖由 sunyi_yx06 于 19-5-2009 23:05 发表

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I checked the website of nursing board, if you study nursing degree at oz for two years, you don't need the ielts examination. Is that ture? I have applied the degree of nursing(graduate entry), ...

YES. IT IS
HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE NOT A PR, YOU MAY STILL NEED IELTS 5 x 7 for the applying the PR VISA.
HENCE INTERNATIONAL STUDENT NEED IMPROVE THEIR ENGLISH AND WHICH IS CRITICAL.

作者: suiyee 时间: 2-8-2009 00:37
楼上的，我不知道你说的哪个洲读两年不需要考雅思，据我所知，现在澳洲打算把护士注册全国统一规范化，要求都全部提升到4个7或者OET一次通过4个B，而且把需要参加这个考试的international student定义为，不是在澳洲或者新西兰出生，没有在这里上小学和中学的。所以即使是PR，甚至你是在加拿大，英国出生的，都必须考雅思，不管你读的课程是几年。。我是在SA，官方网站上都很清楚都写了。。

建议那些不清楚的桐子们，去自己洲的护士局网站看看，提前做好准备，该考试的考试，该转系的转系。。

作者: hqx888 时间: 2-8-2009 01:04
标题: 回复 #61 suiyee 的帖子
西澳护士新注册规定-西澳毕业的学生的要求：

FROM: http://www.nmbwa.org.au/3/2107/50/wa_graduate_applicant.pm

WA Graduate Applicant.
On successful completion of an accredited pre-registration program such as a Bachelor of Nursing or a Bachelor of Midwifery, a Post- Graduate Diploma in Midwifery, a Diploma of Enrolled Nursing, or Masters Program, the student applies to the Board for registration as a nurse or midwife.
The following documentation is required before an application can be considered for registration:

■Statement of Student Eligibility for Registration to be completed and sent directly to the Board by the Education Provider.
■You may be required to produce evidence of English Language competence. (Contact the Board for further information).
To be provided by the student:

■Application form
■Application fee
■Identity documents (birth certificate or passport)
■Change of name document (if applicable)
■Course transcript- final printout

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作者: hqx888 时间: 2-8-2009 01:05
西澳护士新注册规定-其他州和新西兰毕业的学生的要求：

http://www.nmbwa.org.au/3/2108/50/interstate_or_nz_applicant.pm

Interstate or NZ Applicant.If you have been registered in another State, Terriority or New Zealand and would like to transfer your registration to Western Australia, please complete the Registration under the Mutual Recognition Act 2001 Form.

Registration under the Mutual Recognition ActDownload Registration under the Mutual Recognition Act
Registration under the Mutual Recognition Act45.3 kBDocumentation requirements for registration under the Mutual Recognition Act for Nurses and Midwives from Interstate and New Zealand - covered by the Trans-Tasman Recognition (Western Australia ) Act 2007.

To download files:
■right click on the file name
■select Save Target As... (Internet Explorer)
■select Save Link As... (Firefox)
Renew your
Registration Online

作者: hqx888 时间: 2-8-2009 01:08
西澳护士新注册规定-海外申请的要求：

http://www.nmbwa.org.au/3/2109/5 ... onally_qualified.pm

Registration Process for Internationally Qualified Applicants.

English Language Requirements:Important Changes to the NMBWA’S English Language Requirements from 1 July 2009For New Applicants:In a move towards a national standard for English language proficiency, the Nurses & Midwives Board of Western Australia (NMBWA) has endorsed the following changes to the minimum standard of English language proficiency required for internationally qualified Nurses and Midwives:

1.    ALL applicants applying for registration who have undertaken their initial nursing and / or midwifery education outside of Australia (with the exception of New Zealand), must from 1 July 2009, demonstrate English language proficiency.

2.    ALL applicants required to demonstrate English language proficiency must achieve the prescribed test result as set out below:

-       International English Language Testing System (IELTS) – Academic test  score of at least 7 in all four components of IELTS (Reading; Listening; Writing and Speaking) with an overall band score of at least 7
OR
-       Occupational English Test (OET) – Nursing Version: a B pass or above in all four sections.

3.    Applicants must achieve the above scores at a single test sitting and the test must have been completed no more than (2) years prior to their application for registration being submitted to the NMBWA .

4.    The English Language Tests results are only valid for two (2) years from the date of the test.

5.    From 1 July 2009, there will no longer be any waivers granted for the demonstration of English language proficiency. All internationally qualified nurses and midwives (with the exception of New Zealand) will be required to achieve the prescribed test result in one of the English language tests outlined above.

For Existing Applicants:Applications received by the Nurses & Midwives Board of Western Australia from internationally qualified nurses and midwives prior to July 1 2009 are required to meet the existing English language proficiency requirements (as advised by the Nurses & Midwives Board of Western Australia at the time of application), providing that the application process is completed and registration is granted by the 31 December 2009. After this date, the English language proficiency requirement will be the new national standard as outlined above.
English Language Proficiency Testing Centres:
International English Language Testing System (IELTS)

·       Academic Test only
·       A minimum score of 7 must be achieved in all bands

For information about the IELTS test contact:
IELTS AUSTRALIA
GPO Box 2006
CANBERRA ACT 2601, Australia
Or for contact details of the closest testing centre, visit Website: www.ielts.org

Occupational English Test
(OET)

·       A minimum B pass must be achieved in each category

For information about OET contact:
The OET Centre
GPO Box 372
Melbourne VICTORIA 3001, Australia
Telephone + 61 3 9825 3800
Email: oet@oet.com.au
Website: www.occupationalenglishtest.org

Please Note:
■Applicants must achieve the required scores at a single test sitting and the test must have been completed within two (2) years prior to their application being submitted.
■The English Language Tests are only valid for two (2) years from the date of the test.
■The testing authority must forward an original copy of the results directly to the Nurses & Midwives Board of Western Australia.

Documentation Requirements:Complete application form NA4 “Application for Initial Registration as a Nurse and /or Midwife under the Nurses and Midwives Act 2006”. Submit with an application fee (non refundable) and registration fee (if eligible for registration).
Application forms are not accepted via facsimile or electronic scan.
Provide certified copies of documents required.  Persons authorised to certify copies of original documents are Justice of the Peace, Notary Public, a Barrister or Solicitor.  The certifying officer must include the following information on each certified copy:
“This is a true copy of the original which has been sighted by”:
·    Signature of certifier
·    Printed name of certifier
·    State qualification of certifier, eg. Solicitor
·    A contact address of certifier; and
·    A contact phone number for certifier
Documents required are as follows:
·    Birth certificate
·    Passport
·    Change of name documentation (if applicable)
·    Transcript of nursing and / or midwifery education. (If you do not have your transcript, a copy of your syllabus from the nursing or midwifery regulatory authority forwarded directly to NMBWA will be accepted).
·    Initial registration certificate(s)
·    Current practising certificate or endorsement or authority to practise
·    Statement of service on letterhead paper from the most recent employer.
You will also need to request from the nursing and/or midwifery regulatory authority, with whom you are registered overseas, to send the following directly to the Nurses and Midwives Board of Western Australia:
·    Verification of your initial registration (state & country in which you completed your nursing and / or midwifery education)
·    Verification of current registration (state & country in which you were last employed as a nurse / midwife)
Registered Nurse Pathway:All applicants are required to demonstrate English competence
Applicants who have completed an education program leading to registration / license / eligibility as a nurse in one of the following countries may waiver the Registration Bridging Program:
·    United Kingdom (UK)
·    Canada
·    Republic of South Africa
·    Republic of Ireland (Ireland)
·    Singapore
·    United States of America (USA)
·    Hong Kong
·    EU member states where then nursing education meets the EU directive 77/453
Waiving of the Registration Bridging Program requirement may occur when the applicant can provide evidence of registration as a nurse with a registering authority AND satisfactory evidence of experience as a registered nurse for 12 months (full time equivalent):
·    UK
·    Ireland
·    USA
·    Canada
This experience must have occurred within 6 months prior to the application being submitted to the Nurses and Midwives Board of Western Australia.
Midwife PathwayAll applicants are required to demonstrate English competence
Applicants who have completed an education program leading to registration / license / eligibility as a midwife in one of the following countries may waiver the Registration Bridging Program:
·    UK
·    Ireland
·    EU member states where then nursing education meets the EU directive 80/155
Waiving of the Registration Bridging Program requirement may occur when the applicant can provide evidence of registration as a midwife with a registering authority AND satisfactory evidence of experience as a midwife for 12 months (full time equivalent):
·    UK
·    Ireland
This experience must have occurred within 6 months prior to the application being submitted to the Nurses and Midwives Board of Western Australia

Registration as a Nurse or Miwife under the Nurses and Midwives Act 2006 Download Registration as a Nurse or Miwife under the Nurses and Midwives Act 2006
Registration as a Nurse or Miwife under the Nurses and Midwives Act 2006 40.12 kBThis form is to be completed if you are seeking initial registration with the Board and are not currently registered in another state/territory in Australia.

Registration Bridging CoursesDownload Registration Bridging Courses
Registration Bridging Courses21.54 kB

To download files:
■right click on the file name
■select Save Target As... (Internet Explorer)
■select Save Link As... (Firefox)
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作者: hqx888 时间: 2-8-2009 01:18
看清我上面贴的在西澳注册护士对三个不同地方毕业的不同要求，
不能理解，没看清就不要乱说吓人。

现在对MAY的解释就是:两年以下的学业就可能要，两年以上一般不要。

所谓的四个7的前题是国外毕业的（不含新西兰）

作者: suiyee 时间: 2-8-2009 23:50
我不知道WA如何，反正现在SA就是要4个7。。而且把international student定义明确化（见下）。。对于所谓读几年免雅思的这种waiver已经取消或者在2010年1月（我们注册）前取消了。。所以我们全部是按新政策走。。

To align the Nurses Board of South Australia’s (nbsa) English Language Proficiency
Requirements with ANMC’s National Standards for the Assessment of
Internationally Qualified Nurses and Midwives the Board:
• endorsed the definition of an international student to be a student who is not
born and educated at primary and secondary level in Australia or New
Zealand and is enrolled in an nbsa approved course leading to registration or
enrolment

如果WA读两年或以上不需要雅思，估计很多人都会到那边读了。

作者: hqx888 时间: 3-8-2009 00:24

原帖由 suiyee 于 2-8-2009 22:50 发表

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我不知道WA如何，反正现在SA就是要4个7。。而且把international student定义明确化（见下）。。对于所谓读几年免雅思的这种waiver已经取消或者在2010年1月（我们注册）前取消了。。所以我们全部是按新政策走。。

...

谁知道政策会如何变。走一步看一步吧。[/size]

我认为IELTS的评估方式并不科学。有时简直是搞笑。说实话，我认为就是本土学生在澳大利亚读了小学和中学，现在读RN的，就算RN毕业后，我担保一部分本土学生要IELTS拿四个七也不是那么容易。

学好英语，再加上考试时的运气好是王道。

真好笑：你南澳要么提高你的教学要求，达不到要求的就不给他们毕业。放松要求，给他们毕业又不给他们注册。就好像在误人子弟，骗人钱财和青春一样；同时也是在自损名誉，自砸招牌，因为这么做就等于自己就在证明自己南澳的RN教育和/或Bachelor教育不合格一样，所以不能注册，还得靠IELTS来给自己的RN和BACHELOR教育来背书。这不是自己在打自己的嘴巴吗？不可理喻。

现在这么做的现实是让人很容易认为澳大利亚的某些州的有关机构和部们都没有底气认可自己的自己州的RN或BACHELOR教育,那就更没有底气叫其他州或其他国家认可自己的RN或BACHELOR教育了.海外学生难道真的是来花钱买或悠的?花钱买罪受的?

希望有一天南澳或其他州能自豪的说：我们的教育是一流的。我们毕业的学生是一流的。是不用考雅思也可以注册RN并会是合格的高水平的RN,我们的毕业生是在全世界范围受到尊重和认可的。这才会是澳大利亚国际留学生产业的光明前景。否则。。。。。

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作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 3-8-2009 02:30
Don't worry. I have emailed a letter to South australia nursing board to confirm the new requirement. I will post the feedback as soon as I can

作者: hqx888 时间: 3-8-2009 18:38

原帖由 sunyi_yx06 于 3-8-2009 01:30 发表

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Don't worry. I have emailed a letter to South australia nursing board to confirm the new requirement. I will post the feedback as soon as I can

不用猜,答复就会是66楼贴的.

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作者: hqx888 时间: 4-8-2009 20:27
Good News from NMBsa

From: http://www.nmbsa.sa.gov.au/reg_e ... y_requirements.html

Waiver to produce English Language Proficiency Test

The Nursing and Midwifery Board of South Australia (nmbSA) considers under certain circumstances, applications from students who are non-native speakers of English for waiver of the requirement to produce one of the two nmbSA recognised English language proficiency tests, International English Language Testing System (IELTS) – Academic Test or Occupational English Test (OET).

The student is required to provide the following documentary evidence when making their application to nmbSA for a waiver.

Waiver 1

Applies to students commencing nursing and midwifery education programs from 1st January 2009.

The evidence required includes the following:

Successful completion of a nmbSA recognised nursing or midwifery program at degree level; with a minimum of four full-time semesters over 2 years continuous study in that program on campus; at an on-shore Australian tertiary institution; within two years of the date of the application; and a copy of the English Language test prior to commencement of program that demonstrates an overall IELTS test score of 6.0 with a minimum of 6 in each of the four sub-bands.

Applies to students who commenced their nursing and midwifery education programs prior to 31st December 2008.

The evidence required includes the following:

An applicant form overseas, who has successfully completed a course of not less than four semesters (two years full-time study) within the last two years through an Australian University on-shore in Australia and who has provided the appropriate award as evidence, may not be required to undertake an English Language Proficiency Test.

Waiver 2

Completion of a nmbSA approved enrolled nurse program and completion of a minimum of three years secondary education in one of the following English speaking countries; Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom, United States of America or Canada. If this education was completed in Canada, there must be evidence that the school was English speaking.

Please note that effective from 1 January 2010 the above two English language proficiency waivers will no longer be available to new and continuing students.

For further information please contact Registrations on telephone: 08 8366 5566 (local) +61 8 83665566 (international) or email registrations@nmbsa.sa.gov.au.

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 4-8-2009 21:04
等于没说啊， 2010年1月就把上面两条取消了

作者: hqx888 时间: 4-8-2009 21:21

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 12-8-2009 23:05
今天接到了南澳的回复，如下：
Dear Yi, As per the current requirements, you will need to provide evidence ofEnglish proficiency on applying for registration. The current requirementscan be found on the nmbSA website -www.nmbsa.sa.gov.au/documents/nm ... tiveJanuary2010.pdf Kind Regards,Isabella Ramos Registration Services OfficerNursing & Midwifery Board of South AustraliaPO Box 2809, KENT TOWN SA 5071 Tel: (08) 8366 5566 Fax: (08) 8366 5599

作者: trikiwi 时间: 14-8-2009 19:23

原帖由 suiyee 于 29-7-2009 19:26 发表

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我现在正在澳洲读RN，以前也不是医学背景，我读的是graduate entry的那种，两年。。刚读了一个学期。。我的感觉是，只有以下三种人适合读RN：

－有医学背景而且英语底子不是非常差的人，这里的医学背景不一定是指 ...

在我认识的华人读护士的都是三年准时毕业的.一般的学校学生在三年内准时毕业注册的只有40-50%.

作者: sensen 时间: 14-8-2009 23:36
是很难。有时也感觉很累。但是我还是坚持着。
我是一定要按时毕业的。

就算考雅思要求4个7我也要坚持到底。没有过不去的坎。

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 15-8-2009 03:29
Absolutely. I will stick on it.
sensen, I think we should think about OET. I have borrow a book from lib and then I believe it was a better choice.

作者: sunyi_yx06 时间: 19-8-2009 18:22
说实话，语言上和他们差太远了，其实如果是汉语，我可以科科得A,天天就是vital Signs,哎，没有创意啊

作者: 星期日SUN 时间: 28-12-2013 03:22

suiyee 发表于 2-8-2009 00:37

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楼上的，我不知道你说的哪个洲读两年不需要考雅思，据我所知，现在澳洲打算把护士注册全国统一规范化，要求 ...

suiyee，请问你在阿德莱德读的哪个大学的护理本科专业呀？现在应该已经毕业了吧？不知工作好找吗？谢谢！

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