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作者: wzbear 时间: 16-3-2009 09:47
标题: 噩耗传来,tra会减配额
http://www.news.com.au/business/ ... 5192244-462,00.html

摘抄：
“freeze on foreign workers”！！！冻结外国移民工人
“Gates to shut on foreign workers”！！！对国外工人关闭大门

另我注意到了有段话是写
Immigration Minister Chris Evans will reveal the Government is to cut its permanent skilled migration program this financial year by 14 per cent to protect Australian jobs.

注意他是说this finacial year，没有说next year。this是什么意思，在澳洲this财政年是指2008年7月到2009年6月，就是说影响的不是明年（当然明年肯定更变本加厉）而是今天和去年的申请者

作者: 小波 时间: 16-3-2009 09:51
又是黑色星期一吗

作者: 小波 时间: 16-3-2009 09:53
链接打不开啊

作者: 小波 时间: 16-3-2009 09:56
标题: 原文链接与内容
http://www.news.com.au/business/ ... 5192244-462,00.html

LOCAL building and manufacturing jobs will be firewalled, with the RuddGovernment set to close the gate on about 18,500 foreign workers thisyear.

Immigration Minister Chris Evans will reveal theGovernment is to cut its permanent skilled migration program thisfinancial year by 14 per cent to protect Australian jobs.

"Clearlythe economic circumstances in Australia have changed as a result of theglobal financial crisis so it is prudent to reduce this year'smigration intake accordingly," Senator Evans said.

The changesmean building and manufacturing trades will be removed from Australia'scritical skills list, protecting local bricklayers, plumbers, welders,carpenters and metal fitters.

But employers will still be ableto access skilled workers such as doctors and nurses in industries andsectors where acute skills shortages exist.

The critical skills list will now comprise mainly health and medical, engineering and IT workers.

Cabinet agreed last week to slash the permanent skilled migrationprogram intake because of the worsening global economic situation.

The Government will reduce the planned record intake of 133,500 workers in 2008-09 to 115,000.

Themove is expected to be welcomed by unions, which have been agitatingfor months for a reduction in imported labour because of theinternational downturn.

Queensland's mining sector has beengutted by the world recession, and across the state, job vacancies forskilled workers have plunged.

The latest Treasury figuresforecast Australia's unemployment rate will peak at 7 per cent mid nextyear. In February, the jobless rate spiked to the highest monthly levelsince the 1991 recession at 5.2 per cent.

The reduction inthis financial year's intake follows measures announced in Decemberthat resulted in only those migrants sponsored by an employer or in anoccupation on the critical skills list being granted visas under thepermanent skilled migration program.

Almost half of the permanent visas granted are to applicants already living and working in Australia.

SenatorEvans said the Government intended to constantly review the criticalskills list and remove occupations if demand for the skills could bemet by Australian workers.

The 2009-10 migration program will be set in the May Budget and reflect the economic climate.

作者: 小波 时间: 16-3-2009 10:01
标题: 关于这篇文章的89个评论
Disappointing that IT is not included in this. There is currently amassive oversupply of substandard foreign IT workers in this countrythat are devaluing quality IT skills (yes, I said substandard...talk toanyone in the industry and you'll get pretty good consensus on thatfact). IT migration really needs be capped as well. Posted by: Adam of Brisbane 9:44am today
Comment 89 of 89

How about re-assessing the need for the people on 457 visascurrently.....As unemployment rises locals are left out of work whilethose on 457 visas keep their jobs - In the current climate with risingunemployment there should be a huge effort by all employers to keepaussies in jobs - not use it as an excuse to get rid of people.... Posted by: Mark of www.myspace.com/evansmusic2009 9:43am today
Comment 88 of 89

The people we should really be cutting back on are the Refugees andasylem seekers, especially the economic ones who the people smugglersmake money on at our expense. Unfortunately the UN refugees need somuch support when they arrive and take a lot longer to get into thework place. In this economic climate, this is where the Governmentshould take a stand and stop accepting them. Tell thew UN where to goif they give us a hard time. Posted by: Dave of Perth 9:42am today
Comment 87 of 89

This is a sensible move which will be applauded by the overwhelmingmajority of Australians. Charity begins at home we used to say. Inthese harsh economic times my only wish were that something as sensiblewas being proposed by the reckless Qld Opposition, instead of cutting12,000 jobs. Their inappropriate policies leave me breathless. Posted by: Shaun Newman of Townsville N.Q. 9:40am today
Comment 86 of 89

Same rubbish. What s the point of slashing immigration intake whencompanies in Australia are sending jobs overseas. The immigrants mightas well wait in their own country for the jobs to come. If theAustralian companies keep sending jobs overseas, may be what theaustralian governments need to do is to increase the skilledimmigration intake to Australia so that there will be shortage ofworkers overseas. It is easier for Australian workers to compete withthe immigrants in Australia than in overseas because the labouroverseas is a lot cheaper and there is no chance australian workers cancompete with that. What the australian government needs to do is toprevent australia jobs from going overseas. Posted by: William of Sydney 9:40am today
Comment 85 of 89

Gabby of Westmead, you do not need to seek out immigrants to findsomebody "plain ignorant", simply look in the mirror. With people asstupid, ignornant, and unwelcoming as you in the Australian population,it is little wonder imigrants do not assimilate. They probably do notwant their children to be brought up as simpleton racists. Posted by: Garry of Cairns 9:39am today
Comment 84 of 89

Seriously, just build a wall around the country and be done with it! IfAustralians got off their lazy ,obese, welfare spoiled butts and didthe jobs themselves there would be no need for us foreigners wouldthere!! We are here paying taxes and in most cases not getting ANYTHINGfrom the government, no Medicare, no hand outs, no welfare, so inactual fact we are helping to maintain the economy. What a greatcountry, pity about the people! Posted by: Foreign worker of Brisbane 9:38am today
Comment 83 of 89

About bloody time!How about stopping the export of work to China as well Posted by: Al 9:38am today
Comment 82 of 89

Andy, comment 15, you're spot on. Half the people complaining herecan't even spell, let alone speak English. How about we put them in thecall centres and have them write up our bills and take our orders atfast food outlets and then take the piss out of the unskilledworkforce. Have a cup of concrete Australia, work harder and you'llhave a job! Posted by: Abrahim of Brisbane 9:38am today
Comment 81 of 89

Achmed of Bang-a-lore: where have you been pal, it has been the Ruddgovernment that introduced policies to increase immigration to a levelthat has not been seen since right after world war two.. get your factsstraight !! Posted by: Ryan.. of Sydney.. 9:37am today
Comment 80 of 89

Token gesture by the Labor government to appease the masses -immigrants are the recruiting grounds for ALP branches - have been foryears. Posted by: Phil of Sydney 9:37am today
Comment 79 of 89

All of these "real" Aussies calling for reduced intakes of migrants area disgrace, what makes them more "Aussie" than anyone else? Thiscountry was built by waves of migrants willing to work hard and beentrepenurial. Racism always rears its ugly head in hard economictimes, as does hypocrisy. Closing are borders and our minds is theworst thing we could do in challenging times. Posted by: Macca 9:36am today
Comment 78 of 89

Amazing ignorance displayed in this thread. We need skilled workerscoming in, there is no reason to stop it completely especially wherethere are real shortages in particular skills. Of course you all throwin the comments that the world recession is all Kevin Rudd's fault.Seriously none of you really understund the situation. Posted by: Darren Hayward of Melbourne 9:36am today
Comment 77 of 89

What a sham. Protect Australian jobs indeed. Why then is a majorCanberra education facility planning to outsource its ITfunction to India, make the majority of its Australian IT officersredundant and replace them with Indian workers based in Canberra? Oh,and an extra $7500.00 on top of the Aussies reduncancy packages toensure a smooth transition. A real 'Fair Dinkum' kick in the teeth eh?.Posted by: Roy Neale of Pottsville. NSW 9:35am today
Comment 76 of 89

But will stop the open tap of the influx of so-called "refugees" Posted by: Ryan.. of Sydney.. 9:35am today
Comment 75 of 89

"I has more to being use to shit pay conditions and being treated like crap by bosses."My mistake. It should have read "It has more to being use to shit pay conditions and being treated like crap by bosses." Posted by: Chris of VIC 9:34am today
Comment 74 of 89

I am sick of coming up against EEO, target employment groups and themany nationalities in Australia that happily and proudly say they arenot Australian. I am witnessing many jobs being given to migrants whoare not especially skilled, yet they have taken senior positions!!! Nowthey speak there own language at work and joke about Australia!! Wakeup Australia its being taken away!! Posted by: Lost iT of Vrisbane 9:34am today
Comment 73 of 89

Wow. Amazing how fast this has turned into an immigrant bashingsession. Cutting back on immigration is a double edged sword. Considerthe case of New Zealand, who for over a decade had an economic boom dueto immigrants (mainly East Asian) arriving. These immigrants spentmillions getting to New Zealand, buying homes appliances and all theother little things that comes with fully furnishing a new home,day-to-day living, etc. And how did they fare in the jobs market? Well,we have medical doctors playing nurse, electrical engineers drivingtaxis and fully qualified IT professionals manning the petrol pump.Yeah. Sure they are taking NZ jobs, which was the catchphrase of theex-Foreign Minister of NZ, Winston Peters. When the migrants got tiredof the racist behaviour of Kiwis, which verged on South Africa duringthe apartheid era, the economy of NZ practically fell apart. Tourismdropped, immigration dropped, the education sector had a suddendeflation that made K9 look like a genteel slope. So, before creamingabout immigrants taking your jobs, you might want to think about themillions/billions immigrants pour into the economy every year, both thestart up cost and the day-to-day living, for which many comes fromoverseas (i.e., dad working overseas to support the family here). Don'tfall into the NZ racist trap and potentially cause the economy tospiral even further downwards. Learn from the mistakes of the Kiwis. Posted by: AJ of Here 9:26am today
Comment 72 of 89

Hopefully this move will also take some of the pressure off the rentalproperty market in Sydney and Melbourne. Six months ago, I was forcedto move out of a $265 pw 2BR unit in Sydney's inner west that I hadlived in for 5 years because the agent was pressuring the landlord toincrease rents, telling him that there were hundreds of immigrants onshort-term work visas willing to pay $400 pw for the unit. Posted by: Jim B of Oztrailya 9:26am today
Comment 71 of 89

@Everyone whinging that it's not enough: How many whinging Australianswill leave the city and go to a rural area as a doctor? Many immigrantswill do this to secure a permanent residency. There is definitely askills shortage in medicine and engineering. So limiting low skill jobsmakes sense, which is exactly what the government is doing. Posted by: AUSTRALIAN BORN of Melbourne 9:23am today
Comment 70 of 89

First I am not a taxi driver but I know how they fill. Do you everthink why those guys (overseas students) are driving taxi--aftertpaying huge money for a degree ? Because they are not getting a job andthey already spent money from their parents. Finally they need to payback. Who likes to carry drunk people after midnight..... Posted by: COMEON of Brisbane 9:17am today
Comment 69 of 89

14% ? That's 1 in 7 - Let's contrast this with Malaysia cutting foreignworkers by 70% - admittedly it's not the same mix of expertise.Together with Comment 30 , I question ITC skills shortage, it's alreadybeen pretty hard to get an IT vacancy from what I can see leading up tothe current climate. Posted by: PeterT of Sydney 9:16am today
Comment 68 of 89

Shouldn't there a lot more to life than, Jobs Jobs jobs... Money moneymoney...I have a job, but man I would rather be chilling at home. Jobs are ahuge time constraint which i don't really need. And the money I earnits great, and I am classed as a professional, but I don't spend it, Ionly spend on food and living, the rest is saved. Jobs are crap. Posted by: Jobbed of Jobland 9:14am today
Comment 67 of 89

Bob of perth, I guess I had alot of success cause I travelled overseas3 times, interviewed the employees, payed the money to have worksafeaccredited accessors travel with me and train and assess the workers,and on top of that, my company payed them $160,000 approx pa for thereservices. worked out very well. They come to work everyday with a smileon their face, don't blow every second shift cause their drunk likealot of aussie workers, and just basically had a very positiveinfluence on the job. You can probably gather I am talking about theconstruction industry. They also don't feel the need to strike all thetime over the quality of camp food or the flavour of cordial which isalways a bonus Posted by: Arthur of WA 9:12am today
Comment 66 of 89

I totally agree with "WTF of bris". SHORTAGE in IT! what the hell areyou talking about. i am lucky enough to still have a job in IT but iknow of a number of people in the IT sector that have been maderedundant and are finding it hard to get a job (these people are highquality and have more than 10yrs experience). Yet i continue to seeforeign IT workers all over the place that in general (and im notsaying all) have poor English skills (big issue in IT consulting) andare far less effective than their Australian counterparts. Posted by: Agree 9:11am today
Comment 65 of 89

What amazes me is the so called "aussies" do all the tradies job.. likeplumbing, wall work, locksmith... I am yet to see a 457 visa holder tosuch a job, and a real "aussie" to high-end job, study some high-endeducational course and not engage in the work that is all aboutphysical power and pays good money. This country is a country ofimmgrant, the real aussie - abroginals - are the ones who are fightingfor their survival and rights, so coutting down on immigration quota isnot the remedy, they should raise the bar of immigration laws of entryinto this country. Posted by: RK of W'gong 9:09am today
Comment 64 of 89

Good on the Labor government for rolling back some of theseLIBERAL/HOWARD policies. This was set up and used by Howard to getcheap non-union workers for his rich mates inconstruction/manufacturing to make more money. Compared to him theLabor government is doing a fantastic job on imigration, IR, welfare,finance and environment. Posted by: Achmed of Bang-a-lore 9:08am today
Comment 63 of 89

Too many foreign workers in Perth. Sometimes I think I am working inEngland. Might be time to consider the numbers and the mix of theforeign worker intake. Posted by: orby of Perth 9:08am today
Comment 62 of 89

Give Australians priority for employment, what is wrong with KevinRudd?There are thousands of immigrants coming to Australia every day enoughis enough, not to mention as a white person I feel like an outsider inmy own community. They come here for our jobs, take full advantage ofour system, stick together and don't assimilate, just plain ignorant. Posted by: Gabby of Westmead, Sydney 9:07am today
Comment 61 of 89

The immigrants I worked with in the call center were incompetant, lazyand had to be told 3 to 7 times repeatedly what to do. They did notunderstand or speak good english and were so lazy, the two near meanspent a lot of time doing their homework at their desk during the day.When I complained to the superviser (one of their own and we all knowwhat creed they are) he ignored me my complaints for 6 months.WTF? not all are hard working - !!!! Posted by: John McDonald of mcdonaldj8@bigpond.net.au 9:06am today
Comment 60 of 89

Sounds good, but who will do the hard, dirty jobs. Will Aussies dothem? Actually, when the depression gets bad, and it will, then peoplewho were getting big bonuses will have to make hamburgers at the localfast food joint, and the rest of us will get to clean the toilets. Posted by: Not a Fan 9:01am today
Comment 59 of 89

Wow, what a tosser is Rudd - isn't the 500 jobs slashed from ANZ the same thing - going to foriegn workers... Posted by: Donny of Cooma 8:58am today
Comment 58 of 89

About time, obviously we havent moved enough of our jobs overseas and they need to move here Posted by: Dazza of Rutherford The Center of the Universe 8:57am today
Comment 57 of 89

"Too bad. The foreign workers were good workers. Alot less whinging.Actually appreciated the good money they earned. "I has more to being use to shit pay conditions and being treated likecrap by bosses. In other words they wouldn't know any better.It's abit like being an abuse victim. You don't realise it's abuseuntil you are out of the situation and more so when you are withsomeone who treats you with the respect and decency you deserve.14% is not nearly enough. All immigration needs to be cut back to thebone until the housing situation is better and we have theninfrastructure to cope with the demands. Posted by: Chris of VIC 8:55am today
Comment 56 of 89

REDUCE FURTHER .......... NOT ENOUGH Posted by: Dany 8:55am today
Comment 55 of 89

That still means 115,000 skilled workers coming to Australia AFTER thecut, so what! This government really has no idea - the door has to beSHUT CLOSED, not just left ajar, they still pile through. Andadditionally, those here should be on skilled worker visas should bereviewed so that Australians with those skills are not left unemployedwhile overseas workers are occupying those jobs. It is an extraordinarysituation, we as a country must look after ourselves - that meansshutting the door to all immigration, and halting foreign aidcompletely, til our economy normalises and our infrastructure becomes1st world, not 3rd world as is the case with hospitals, road, rail,schools and governments. Maybe I should run for parliament, move overPauline. Posted by: Greg of Stop them coming, stop our aid going 8:54am today
Comment 54 of 89

Hey, in reading this a little closer, the government is having us on.They are bringing in over 300,000 people in total. They are are onlyreducing a small number off "skilled migration". They are having us on.They will still be bringing in about 300,000 people during a period ofmassive job losses. They just don't care about Australian's who losetheir jobs. This is the sort of thing that makes us think we are beinglead by a bunch of clowns. Posted by: Not impressed of Sydney 8:54am today
Comment 53 of 89

Too little too late. We are pulling in way way way too many peoplegiven our overstressed city infrastructure and rapidly risingunemployment. Posted by: shaun 8:53am today
Comment 52 of 89

Skilled migrants are an important component of every first worldeconomy if it desires to keep ahead of its competitors. Most are simplygood people with a desire for a better life in the sort of conduciveenvironment usually taken for granted by the locals. Instead of seeingthem as competition for job places, let's see the locals rise up to thechallenge. After all, skills shortages don't simply come about, dothey? Posted by: "Foreigner" of Sydney 8:53am today
Comment 51 of 89

I can not understand how the government can still say there is a shortage of IT workers in Australia ??ANZ just sent 500 jobs to india NAB sent 800 to india Telstra sent 1000 to india and Philipines ??I think what the companies want is cheap IT labour from India NOT quality You get what you pay for !!5 Indians to replace 1 Australian ??? you do the maths !!!Does skilled Migration include Taxi Drivers ? 711 shop assistants ? cleaners ??OVerseas students are taking jobs from Australians. Posted by: damien Boss of Melbourne 8:53am today
Comment 50 of 89

Another Rudd government knee-jerk reactionary effort, this government does not know what the word pro-active means.. Posted by: First Geoff of Sydney 8:50am today
Comment 49 of 89

An 'oversupply' of doctors David of Sydney?? Are you joking?? Maybe anoversupply in Sydney, but definitely not beyond city limits. Maybemedicare provider numbers to those incoming doctors be restricted tolocations rather than actual doctors - that is those medicare providernumbers be given to doctors if they choose to practice in areas withdoctor shortages, and if they move out of the area, they lose thataccredication to practice medicine under medicare. At the momentcountry towns are blackmailed into providing accommodation and practicepremises at no cost to doctors to attract them to town which is totallyunacceptable. Medicare provider numbers should be like liquor licenses- they belong to a premise, not to an individual, then they could beallocated to where they are needed Posted by: Greg of Drag the doctors out of the cities 8:50am today
Comment 48 of 89

You have got to be joking, BIG DEAL GET REAL, we need slashes ofimmigrants taking our jobs and a stop to companies moving offshore!! Posted by: Glen of Sydney 8:49am today
Comment 47 of 89

Is this what Pauline Hanson was trying to do years ago? Posted by: Kristy of Newcastle 8:49am today
Comment 46 of 89

Why not reduce the immigration intake by 90%? That would really givejobs to Aussies. There are so many school leavers and others whodesperately need these jobs. Give them to AUSTRALIANS! Posted by: sara 8:45am today
Comment 45 of 89

My God, Skills shortage in IT. WTF - I have 15 years enterprise designand development experience. I was made redundant in December and stillI cannot find a Job, and I have never been out of work in my career. Posted by: WTF of Brisbane 8:43am today
Comment 44 of 89

Not enough, this cut is paltry and the Government knows this.There are 100 other people applying for any position advertised,If Rudd is serious he would cease bringing in immigrants all togetherand make it easier and cheaper for Australians to gain skills in theseareas, as it stands now unless I am on the dole I can't afford to payfor courses and places like Tafe or Uni. Also Della Bosca takingEnrolled Endorsed Nurses off Tafe lists and making it a Uni courseonly exasperates the problem. Get REAL Labor!Here on the Central Coast I am wondering why there are many Britsin good positions any Aussie can do hmmmm. Posted by: Lynne of Central Coast 8:40am today
Comment 43 of 89

It is about time the government done something about this matter. The14% cutt is a start but there still needs to be more done to protectAustralian workers & their jobs. Sure the foreign workers like themoney but a lot of it they take back or send back to their owncounties. They are putting Australians out of work in their own countrydepiving them of supporting their own families. And that is a greatshame. Posted by: Concerned of Hills Area NSW 8:40am today
Comment 42 of 89

A good move to make the cut should be larger - 14% is not nearlyenough! I fail to see why we are bringing in so many immigrants when,so of our already established population without jobs.And it's not only the job front for which immigration is a concern. Howon earth are our water supplies, our public transport system and ourhealth system supposed to cope with such a rapidly increasingpopulation?! Posted by: Loz of Melbourne 8:39am today
Comment 41 of 89

Interesting.......a good move in some ways but I wonder if Aussies willactually get off their asses and fill the jobs that will becomeavailable instead of staying on welfare....I hope there will be somedecent checks in place to ensure this.......hahahaha - just realisedwhat I wrote - must still be dreaming on this Monday morning! Posted by: CJ of Sydney 8:38am today
Comment 40 of 89

About time! Too little, too late! The recession is already a reality. Iam not against foreign workers in Australia but, how about employingAustralians to work in Australia - it makes sense to me! If Australiansare going to employ foreign workers, you may as well send our jobsoff-shore.It is about time the Australian Government started looking after itsown. Posted by: Denise Humphries of Upper Caboolture 8:38am today
Comment 39 of 89

Doesn't really matter too much about shutting the door here. Workers inChina no longer have to travel to Australia to make our Bonds undies,they can make them all from home soon anyway! I wonder if the newChesty Bonds image will be a thinly built dark haired male standingwith a polluted sky in the background.......... Remember - truth inadvertising. Posted by: Adrian of Sydney 8:36am today
Comment 38 of 89

That sounds good to me....unless we are seriously down on skills insome segment of the workforce. We need to reign in immigration andtrain up the poor souls that lost a job out of all this recession. Andwhen times are get better We need to drag the lazy from in front oftheir TVs and their bongs and teach them a trade or profession insteadof subsisting on the dole. Posted by: Rory McRorts of Rortsville 8:34am today
Comment 37 of 89

Finally a "Proactive" move to help our unemployment!!! Now to back itup lets get the work for the dole scheme enforced and get peopel backinto jobs. Posted by: Mick of Brisbane 8:33am today
Comment 36 of 89

labor are only doing this because they are creating an environmentwhere large numbers of people who were the bread winners for workingfamilies, but are now the head of the unemployed families. So much forlabors' fair go for working families. Posted by: Aussie Lad of Broken Down NSW 8:30am today
Comment 35 of 89

First bit of common sense coming from this stupid government since itwas elected. Given all they doing to destroy jobs as part of Krudds waron prosperity, this is news. Now let's see if they are serious. Let'ssee if they are going to stop discouraging employers from employing;stop the harsh labour market regulation; stop the emmission trdingscheme; stop increasing energy costs. Let's see if they start using abit of common sense instead of this stupid radical ideology that isdestroying Australian jobs. Posted by: Not impressed of Sydney 8:30am today
Comment 34 of 89

Good this is being done, but it may be too late already. Also a pitysince many of the foriegn workers are hardworking and less demanding.But then charity begins at home. Posted by: Sue of Queensland 8:28am today
Comment 33 of 89

Only one problem, people in Australia dont want to work! Posted by: Johno of Coffs 8:26am today
Comment 32 of 89

Something the Brits are already doing. By changing their imigrationlaws I am being forced home despite several job offers and experiencethat according to the proffesionals cannot be found within the EU.These laws have restricted people from staying in the country a policyof British jobs for british workers. The british governemnt has alreadyscrewed over qualified foreign workers in this country......clearly itsgoing to happen all over the world. Posted by: Forced Home of UK 8:25am today
Comment 31 of 89

Thank you Arthur! Posted by: Foreign worker of Brisbane 8:25am today
Comment 30 of 89

"The Government will reduce the planned record intake of 133,500workers in 2008-09 to 115,000. " - This is hardly a closing of thegate. How about the government (through the Department of IndustrialRelations) investigate the big time wage rorting going on by manyemployers in the Asian communities exploiting travellers by payingbetween $5 and $10 per hour. It is bringing work standards down andtaking jobs away from citizens and permanent residents. Posted by: AJ 8:24am today
Comment 29 of 89

Must agree with comment 4 except for his whinge factor.Skilledimmigrants are good for the country.without them we will no longer beable to afford any pensions in the future ect ect ect.Like everythingelse in life,rising unemployment is a cycle. Posted by: shane of sydney 8:24am today
Comment 28 of 89

Don't worry, the jobs will find the workers. Companies will just send the jobs overseas. Posted by: EL 8:23am today
Comment 27 of 89

People on 457 work visa's are good workers and it is a way of vettingthose who want to migrate to Australia once they fall in love with outgreat country. Posted by: Melinda of Newtown 8:22am today
Comment 26 of 89

Yes good decision. Furthermore, time to stop LAFHA allowance. Do youknow that many temporary workers receive a Living Away from HomeAllowance for accoommodation and meal. This is about $15000 a year TAXFREE. This is an absolute disgrace. Coming to work can be acceptablewhen skills are needed, but on the top of that you get LAFHA is anabuse towards the Australian tax payers. Why not giving a LAFHA toAustralian workers? Stop the rot! Posted by: John Standfort of Sydney 8:21am today
Comment 25 of 89

IT is still a skill with critical shortages? It never was, there arethousands of trained and skilled IT workers who can't get a job in ITbecause the 457 Visa allows lots of cheap imported labour. It's a rortwhich has been running for 10 years or more and the stupid Governmentcan't get of their rear end to find out what it really happening outthere. Posted by: Bryce 8:19am today
Comment 24 of 89

What about all those international students who are just studying toget a PR ???? Aren't they a threat to the national economy. Since theyare ready to work on measly salaries and compete with the locals. Orthey are not competition at all since they demand so less that welocals can't even think of it.Obviously, the international students are bread and butter of ouruniversities and government won't say no to them. Posted by: Smighty of sydney 8:19am today
Comment 23 of 89

Thank goodness!we have to look after our own first.. and then we can help others.I dont see any families going without food to give it to others- you'lllook after your own family first.. and then you can properly help otherpeople. Posted by: sarah c of Sydney 8:18am today
Comment 22 of 89

This does nothing to protect jobs. All it means is that there will beless competition in Australia for the jobs that remain here and giventhat so many of those are being exported to China and India, any dropin migrants will be more than offset by offshoring. Thanks Kevin forthe state of the country.... Posted by: andy of melbourne 8:18am today
Comment 21 of 89

Taxpayer - I agree, this is the first good decision of the Ruddgovernment, but it's really just undoing a previous bad one. However,most of Australia's population growth still comes from immigration. Wedon't even have enough drinking water, housing or jobs in our capitalcities for the existing population. The whole world need to look at theconsequences of the current exponential growth. Right now, Australiaisn't set up to take more people. Posted by: RJ of Sydney 8:17am today
Comment 20 of 89

protectionism is the way to go.We need to get back our manufacturingskills and know how.We can't rely on other countries for ever,we haveto be able to be self sufficient.This globalization is only aboutcapitalising on another countries poorer living standard.We make themricher and improve their living standard and they supply us with cheaprubbish to fuel our use and disgard society. Posted by: PauL 8:15am today
Comment 19 of 89

The PM has finally realised that giving out citizenship to all andsundry who don't show an ounce of Australian pride and refuse to speakEnglish finally has the door closed and locked. We have been too easyand we've been way too generous. These people need to prove themselvesand earn their chance to live here. Posted by: Fair Dinkum Aussie 8:15am today
Comment 18 of 89

We just had over 145 applicants for an IT role. How this is still included in migration is beyond me.....This government will be lose the next election over things like this. Posted by: bobajob 8:13am today
Comment 17 of 89

So, someone in Labour has been listening to Pauline Hansen after all.Astralians first! Posted by: Hazy of Brisbane 8:13am today
Comment 16 of 89

Why is it that the Rudd government continues to protect the buildersand tradies I wonder? Woldn;t be because they're traditionally Laborvoters at all?They've promised huge funding for building works around the country andthe first home buyers grant to boost building trades, but what aboutthe rest of us?Now they're cutting imported workers into these areas...what about theothers?Because of the Rudd government, the ideal family now in this country isa builder married to a wife that doesn;t work and have 3 kids. That wayyou're guaranteed lots of family payments, tax breaks, job security andmore, while my family (both of us are busines owners who pay staff) getnothing. We're finding it more difficult than the average builder Rudd!Posted by: CT of Wide Bay 8:13am today
Comment 15 of 89

Cutting foreign workers is one thing but the real drain on our economyare those migrants who dont work, who cant speak english and are neverlikely to be off social security benefits. They are the ones who shouldbe denied entry along with a lot of the baggage that we get from socalled family reunions. Posted by: DM of QLD 8:12am today
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I don't know about your experience with foreign workers Arthur, but I find a lot of them are terrible and very lazy. Posted by: Bob of Perth 8:11am today
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What about in indutreys lik IT where all the 'skilled' labour seems to be under-cutting the markets. Posted by: Weq of Canberra 8:10am today
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And where are the skilled Australians going to come from???? There aretoo many unemployed bludgers out there who could quite easily do thesejobs with a bit of training, but they either are too lazy to get oftheir butts to do the work, or (understandibly) the amout paid to anapprentice is to low. Another factor is that If a 30 yo person was toapply for a job as a brickie he would not get the job as they only wantyoung naive to realise they are being screwed over by the money hungerybuilder. The only foreigners they should be letting into this countryfrom this point on (indeffinitely) are tourist who will spend theirmoney here, no one else should be allowed to stay in this country atthis point in time! Posted by: Bill of Perth 8:06am today
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Have a look what the 3rd biggest australian industry is. Migrationapplications, medical fees, etc turn it into the 3rd biggest income theaustralian government has. Posted by: steve of gc 8:06am today
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I didn't vote for KRudd, I don't like a lot of KRudd has done but thisI agree with, but one good policy does not make a good government andthere is still a lot that I don't like about him or his government. Posted by: Tracey 8:05am today
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first of its a Well done Krudd.. good move to protect the Aussie jobs.As an overseas born and Australian educated citizen, i'd like to saythat we can reduce the number of skills migrants to this country, ifpeople seriously take up 'Skills' required to keep the country goingforward.its SAD to see, the most Australian governments only promote TAFEcourses (more labor related skills set) and NOT professional skillsets. (ie: Dr, Engineers, IT Specialist, etc..)In today's Australia, all that is promoted is to be a Sports star,Australian idol, Dancer, or a politician. Therefore most of our kidsdon't even see a professional job as an option. if anyone doubts this,just goto one of the top Universities and check out how many Aussiekids are actually enrolled and studying in these courses..the day our view changes on this, is the day we can stop overseasskills migrants over flowing this country Posted by: Ravi of Melb 8:04am today
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Perhaps it'll work in Australia's favour, David. This country is a nation of rampant hypochondriacs after all. Posted by: Shane of Sydney 7:52am today
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This is great news for those in those trades and it's about time too.But why are IT jobs not protected ? I have nearly 30 years ITexperience and I have been unemployed since the start of the year andas have a lot of my colleagues, especially those working for the banksand the telcos who have sent their jobs to India. Why is this allowedto happen ? Especially one large Australian bank that I used to workfor, that processes over 30% of the Australian economy every night. Andnow the support for these systems resides in India. There must behundreds if not thousands of unemployed IT professionals who just don'thave the 'necessary' skills but would be more than happy to bere-trained if given the opportunity. Any IT jobs (or any otherprofession on the critical list) should be given to Australian citizensand if we have to be re-trained to do it, then so be it. Then and onlythen, should foreign workers be considered. This is where thegovernment money should be spent, not on ridiculous handouts that areof dubious benefit. And yes I did get some of the handout, but what Iwould much prefer is a job. Posted by: Jo of Brisbane 7:48am today
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That is only a 14% cut and it's as of July first next year. This ofcourse is after an increase of 30% this year. Throughout the firstelectoral term of this government Australia will still see just over 1million immigrants; 18500 less is a drop in the bucket and justposturing for yet another photo op for this charlatan government.. Posted by: Blampa of Springfield 7:35am today
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Too bad. The foreign workers were good workers. Alot less whinging. Actually appreciated the good money they earned. Posted by: Arthur of WA 7:32am today
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yah the first really good decision this government has made ....... I wont throw you out just yet..... Posted by: taxpayer 7:26am today
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I can promise you there will be an oversupply of doctors within fiveyears. The "swarm" are two years off finishing. This is the name givento the thousands of medical students from all the new medical schoolswhich have started in Australia. There used to be 1000 medicalgraduates per year, by 2011 there well be 3200 per year. Posted by: David of Sydney 7:16am today
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Great news. Keep Australia for Australians. Posted by: Paul of Melbourne 6:31am today
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作者: erictsai 时间: 16-3-2009 11:00
经济危机下，地方保护主义倾向很严重

作者: zhangyuanzhi 时间: 16-3-2009 11:11
对已分CO的会有影响吗？

作者: szring 时间: 16-3-2009 11:46
同问。对已分vo的有影响吗？

作者: yisheng_honger 时间: 16-3-2009 12:25
提示: 作者被禁止或删除, 无法发言 对补料地有影响么？

作者: charles-lee 时间: 16-3-2009 12:32
肯定有影响，估计分VO是按老的配额来的，现在调整了配额，如果配额用完了，那么就得等下个财政年度的配额了，只能希望你们分VO的时候在那个11W5里面了。

下个财政年度的配额现在没人知道，要看政府的预算了，不过基本是有减无增的。

作者: ma.qy 时间: 16-3-2009 13:19

原帖由 charles-lee 于 16-3-2009 12:32 发表

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肯定有影响，估计分VO是按老的配额来的，现在调整了配额，如果配额用完了，那么就得等下个财政年度的配额了，只能希望你们分VO的时候在那个11W5里面了。

下个财政年度的配额现在没人知道，要看政府的预算了，不过 ...

明年配额将在9w-10w之间.大家可以保存我的这个帖子看看我猜得对不对.

作者: wzbear 时间: 16-3-2009 13:27

原帖由 ma.qy 于 16-3-2009 13:19 发表

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明年配额将在9w-10w之间.大家可以保存我的这个帖子看看我猜得对不对.

太乐观了我估计是8w左右

作者: sotmaomao 时间: 16-3-2009 14:07

作者: sparkzhu 时间: 16-3-2009 14:09
太可怕了，现在澳洲怎么这样子啊，我前个月看到报纸上面还在说2009年澳洲增加移民额度，怎么报纸都写假内容？？？？？？

作者: 春风吹又生 时间: 16-3-2009 14:09

作者: 马文广 时间: 16-3-2009 15:23
标题: 在POOL里的呢？
会影响到他们的申请吗？其实他们也就是补料的人嘛！经济危机也让移民局疯了，说改什么就改。

作者: pusu1980 时间: 16-3-2009 15:29
我觉得对已经分CO的TZ们来说应该没有影响，分了的话就已经在配额里面了！

作者: hxuanyu 时间: 16-3-2009 15:48

原帖由 charles-lee 于 16-3-2009 12:32 发表

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肯定有影响，估计分VO是按老的配额来的，现在调整了配额，如果配额用完了，那么就得等下个财政年度的配额了，只能希望你们分VO的时候在那个11W5里面了。

下个财政年度的配额现在没人知道，要看政府的预算了，不过 ...

下个财年的配额也是会减少的阿最早的那条新闻里不是已经说了吗？ 5月份有结论

作者: charles-lee 时间: 16-3-2009 16:50

原帖由 hxuanyu 于 16-3-2009 15:48 发表

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下个财年的配额也是会减少的阿最早的那条新闻里不是已经说了吗？ 5月份有结论

是的啊，5月份根据预算再确定配额啊。数量绝对会比现在这个11W5还要少，至少再跌个15％。TRA的移民机会应该变的更渺茫。

现在这个形势下除了医生护士外没有看出来还有紧缺行业

每个行业都在裁员只是数量上略有不同，不过中国做移民的似乎这2累的很罕有吧

作者: 焦糖巧克力 时间: 16-3-2009 17:03

没分VO，但是已经等了13个月了，这日子什么时候是个头啊~

作者: 我的霍巴特 时间: 16-3-2009 17:08
工人阶级最无奈。。。。

作者: zhangyuanzhi 时间: 16-3-2009 17:13

原帖由 我的霍巴特 于 16-3-2009 17:08 发表

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工人阶级最无奈。。。。

作者: 美好 时间: 16-3-2009 18:10
请问会影响到07年8月的TRA吗？是MODL,非CSL.

已经等了19个月了，所有的政策都赶上了，难道有来一个？

作者: yohbros 时间: 16-3-2009 18:18
标题: 回复 #23 美好的帖子
不会。

作者: 美好 时间: 16-3-2009 18:33
标题: 回复 #24 yohbros 的帖子
谢谢yohbros，再有影响真不知怎么办了。

作者: 荒草原 时间: 17-3-2009 12:09
楼上的兄弟，谁知道呢？

作者: zlllz 时间: 17-3-2009 23:40
VOA上说是“next year“ 会cut 14%，这个链接上又是"this financial year"，搞不懂了。不过有两条俺明白了：
1. 配额减少了，而且还会减
2. 不管是从现在开始减，还是从明年开始，想俺这种还在烤鸭的人来说，无论如何也是不能免除影响的，没有最坏，只有更坏
但是，无论如何，大家还是要有信心，继续努力，坚持移民！

作者: 浮云 时间: 17-3-2009 23:56
11w5的配额还是今年的？不是6月后的？晕。。。。

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