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作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 10:19
标题: two job offers
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 16-10-2016 18:17 编辑

Two job offers are same job titles, same responsibilities.I am planning to start new design company by myself in 2017, and I already registered the business name.

Job offer A:
Pros: 1. the Letter of offer(full-time) was signed two weeks ago, and it is a 3 months probation period. I applied the job via Seek.com.NB:I should report the duties on this Monday, 17/10/2016.
      2.The salary is higher than B( base salary is 5k more)
      3.Design&Construction company, less chance work overtime.
Cons: 1.Local Australian company, size is 100-200 employees.
      2.The workplace is 40 km away from my home, and it will take 40 mins drive via HWY.
      3. I am not the ideal candidate as it took 3 weeks to offer me the job from the final interview. Actually the manager told me the decision could be made within one week.
         4.Higher expectations.
         5.Team leader does not like me.

Job offer B: Emailed the offer yesterday afternoon, and will send the contract soon. Based on projects role.
Pros:1)Famous global consulting company, size 10000+ employees.
      2)Close to my home, 15 mins bus.
      3)Appreciated and respected by the interviewers - group manager and team leader. Have a good relationship to start with. The interview feedback is very quick. I was approached by the group manager via Linkedin.
      4)I could hand the daily duties easily.
      5)I may earn  more.

Cons: 1)Salary is based on the full-time rate, not the contractor rate. It is ok for me as money is not main concern. The package is acceptable.
         2)Contractor role, mentioned possible to permanent depends on my performance.
         3) Consulting firm, the high chance of working overtime as the full-time role.
         4) Higher english requirements:Oral and written.

Please give some suggestions, and which offer I'd better to take?

Thanks.
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In summary the kindly suggestions, B is the preferred option. My wife insists that I report duty on this Monday at A, and do not sign the contract. My initial plan is just give A a call to advise that I accept another offer B. Should I follow my wife's solution?

作者: starrry 时间: 15-10-2016 10:39
这还用说，当然B，多出来5000块税后也没多大差别，做人开心最重要，离家近，工作环境好，干嘛选A

作者: 语之玫瑰 时间: 15-10-2016 11:11

同意楼上

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 19:22
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 15-10-2016 19:26 编辑

starrry 发表于 15-10-2016 10:39
这还用说，当然B，多出来5000块税后也没多大差别，做人开心最重要，离家近，工作环境好，干嘛选A

多谢！
可是B是Contract role,说不定过完圣诞节有的从新招工作乐。我得收入是家里得唯一来源。每周的房租还是的交的。

作者: starrry 时间: 15-10-2016 19:30
这临时工太正常啦，到时再找呗，怕毛

作者: justinfang 时间: 15-10-2016 21:25
当然选B啦，40公里路去上班然后小公司然后team leader又不喜欢你，何必呢？就为了多5K？难道这个工作会比较稳定，楼主别天真了！

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 22:17
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 15-10-2016 22:53 编辑

justinfang 发表于 15-10-2016 21:25
当然选B啦，40公里路去上班然后小公司然后team leader又不喜欢你，何必呢？就为了多5K？难道这个工作会比较 ...

多谢，
B其实可以多给10k的，是因为我面试B时决定去A，因为他们坚持给我Contractor Role。我就随便开了个价，没经过大脑思考的价（Permernent Role），现在想，他们给我的是Contract。should 20% more
那我周一还需要去报到不？
领导想让你先去A看看再做决定。合同握在手里先不签。

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 22:17

justinfang 发表于 15-10-2016 21:25
当然选B啦，40公里路去上班然后小公司然后team leader又不喜欢你，何必呢？就为了多5K？难道这个工作会比较 ...

多谢，
那我周一还需要去报到不？
领导想让你先去A看看再做决定。合同握在手里先不签。

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 22:17

justinfang 发表于 15-10-2016 21:25
当然选B啦，40公里路去上班然后小公司然后team leader又不喜欢你，何必呢？就为了多5K？难道这个工作会比较 ...

多谢，
那我周一还需要去报到不？
领导想让你先去A看看再做决定。合同握在手里先不签。

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 22:25

starrry 发表于 15-10-2016 19:30
这临时工太正常啦，到时再找呗，怕毛

话说A可是花了1.5个月才搞定的。
我现在的水平很尴尬，高不成低不就的

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 15-10-2016 22:25

starrry 发表于 15-10-2016 19:30
这临时工太正常啦，到时再找呗，怕毛

话说A可是花了1.5个月才搞定的。
我现在的水平很尴尬，高不成低不就的

作者: starrry 时间: 15-10-2016 23:10
澳洲没有铁饭碗这种工作，permanent role也是随时随地要被 redundancy

作者: cais 时间: 16-10-2016 02:55
跟B说有其它offer，比他家高些，而且是perm，问可不可以调高工资，并且/或者直接给perm。

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 16-10-2016 18:24
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 16-10-2016 18:39 编辑

cais 发表于 16-10-2016 02:55
跟B说有其它offer，比他家高些，而且是perm，问可不可以调高工资，并且/或者直接给perm。

您好，Cais
工资其实我不在乎，B给的薪水也是我开的（当时随口开的，没经过大脑，其实可以在多开10k没问题），B没还价；我们在乎的是permanent与否？

作者: justinfang 时间: 17-10-2016 21:26

leozhou1385 发表于 16-10-2016 18:24
您好，Cais
工资其实我不在乎，B给的薪水也是我开的（当时随口开的，没经过大脑，其实可以在多开10k没 ...

permanent这种没有任何意义的，要开你分分钟的事情，所以不必纠结这个。

作者: zlsiva 时间: 17-10-2016 23:52
permanent 要做多几年，redundancy的时候才能显示出优势：公司根据permanent的年限赔一定比例的薪水才能开除你
如果contract所在的这个位置确实需要人，项目也不是几个月就完成的，先做再说

作者: cyber_y 时间: 18-10-2016 00:03
其他都扯淡跟对领导最重要

作者: cyber_y 时间: 18-10-2016 00:08

本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 16-10-2016 18:17 编辑

Two job offers are same job titles, same responsibilities.I am planning to start new design company by myself in 2017, and I already registered the business name.

Job offer A:
Pros: 1. the Letter of offer(full-time) was signed two weeks ago, and it is a 3 months probation period. I applied the job via Seek.com.NB:I should report the duties on this Monday, 17/10/2016.
      2.The salary is higher than B( base salary is 5k more) （可忽略）
      3.Design&Construction company, less chance work overtime.
Cons: 1.Local Australian company, size is 100-200 employees.
      2.The workplace is 40 km away from my home, and it will take 40 mins drive via HWY.
      3. I am not the ideal candidate as it took 3 weeks to offer me the job from the final interview. Actually the manager told me the decision could be made within one week.
         4.Higher expectations.
         5.Team leader does not like me.（这个绝对不是好事）

Job offer B: Emailed the offer yesterday afternoon, and will send the contract soon. Based on projects role.
Pros:1)Famous global consulting company, size 10000+ employees. （这个很好）
      2)Close to my home, 15 mins bus.
      3)Appreciated and respected by the interviewers - group manager and team leader. Have a good relationship to start with. The interview feedback is very quick. I was approached by the group manager via Linkedin.（这个很重要）
      4)I could hand the daily duties easily.
      5)I may earn  more.

Cons: 1)Salary is based on the full-time rate, not the contractor rate. It is ok for me as money is not main concern. The package is acceptable.
         2)Contractor role, mentioned possible to permanent depends on my performance.
         3) Consulting firm, the high chance of working overtime as the full-time role.
         4) Higher english requirements:Oral and written. （这个是好事，因为你在这里做完之后，之后再找工作，即使你实际英语水平一般，其他公司也会认为你的英文口语和书面沟通能力没问题）
如果是四大或者的话那肯定选四大。

作者: yellow1999 时间: 18-10-2016 18:08
@leozhou1385 楼主是civil engineer吗？貌似你很抢手啊

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 21-10-2016 21:06

cyber_y 发表于 18-10-2016 00:08
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 16-10-2016 18:17 编辑

多谢！

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 21-10-2016 21:06

cyber_y 发表于 18-10-2016 00:08
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 16-10-2016 18:17 编辑

多谢！

作者: leozhou1385 时间: 21-10-2016 21:07

yellow1999 发表于 18-10-2016 18:08
@leozhou1385 楼主是civil engineer吗？貌似你很抢手啊

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