[讨论]关于入籍的事情大家给点意见

samcao

到了可以申请入籍的时间了,我这几天拿不定主意入还是不入.把我的想法说一下,大家给点意见啊.<br>
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我个人情况如下:<br>
老婆在国内有自己喜欢的事业,我近期也准备回国去发展.我和她都不准备在退休前(60岁左右)到这边来.<br>
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我个人是不想入澳洲国籍的.原因如下:<br>
1.感情上有些接受不了,做了30年的中国人,忽然换个国籍,变成澳大利亚人.我很爱中国.也时刻为自己是一个中国人感到自豪.<br>
2.以后回国比较麻烦,要办旅游探亲签证,要想在国内工作还要办工作签,不知道国内对外籍人士的工作许可是怎么规定的.<br>
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但我老婆建议我入籍,因为:<br>
1.可以多生几个小孩,(呵呵,我也喜欢)<br>
2.孩子以后可以自己选择国籍<br>
3.以后小孩要在这边上学的话,费用会少很多.<br>
4.对中国以后的社会保障体系不乐观,中国社会老龄化太严重.<br>
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目前只能想起来这么多理由.拜托大家给点意见,先谢谢了.

autraveler

白天停水，晚上停电，发不起工资，买不起面。<br>
翻开邓选找到答案，原来是社会主义初级阶段。<br>
再往后看，靠，一百年不变。<br>
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还用说么...<br>
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micfox

到了可以申请入籍的时间了,我这几天拿不定主意入还是不入.把我的想法说一下,大家给点意见啊.<br>
If I were you, I would get the Aussie citienship without even hesitating!!! (BTW, if you hesitate now, you might get one extra year to think about this issue again if you know what I mean)

Cathyun

我也肯定会入籍的... 楼主自己好好想想喽

springoz

LZ没必要犹豫吧?中国历来欢迎海外归侨,澳洲可不会永远给你入籍的机会啊!<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible4259249689'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/06.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/06.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible4259249689.Play()'>你好可爱耶！</td></tr></table></p>

goldeneye

如果入了澳洲国籍，以后再换回中国国籍可以吗

cydzzj

入吧！还想什么呢！

micfox

变3年的事情没有追溯期吗? 什么时候开始执行啊? 有没有可靠消息透漏点?<br>
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Hehe... I don't have 100% confirmed information.. (again read my words carefully: I said "might" not "must")

micfox

我个人是不想入澳洲国籍的.原因如下:<br>
1.感情上有些接受不了,做了30年的中国人,忽然换个国籍,变成澳大利亚人.我很爱中国.也时刻为自己是一个中国人感到自豪.<br>
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Come on, you still speak Chinese,right? so is Chinese citizenship that important?<br>
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2.以后回国比较麻烦,要办旅游探亲签证,要想在国内工作还要办工作签,不知道国内对外籍人士的工作许可是怎么规定的.<br>
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It is not 麻烦 at all compared to the visa to other western countries!!! Ask the people who became Aussie on this BBS and you can know the truth..<br>
Another point is that as long as you keep your Chinese ID card in China, who will know you are foreigner in China if you do not tell it by yourself??<br>

chubbycat

感情上有些接受不了 - my goodness<br>
感到自豪 - for what?

chenbr

a frank cat....

小树熊

If I were you, my answer is 入。<br>
I don't think LZ's feeling 很奇怪. That's right——每个人的想法是不同的。<br>
But I agree with 肥猫, because I don't feel what LZ feel.

singsong

人啊，苦短的一生就是被这些虚妄的东西主宰，当官、发财、出国、名利，到头来一场虚空，生命中最本质、最重要的东西反被忽视了。<br>
在这个世界上，什么都抵挡不过时光的流逝。 <br><br>

micfox

why do you guys care about Chinese citizenship so much??? It is not hard to get back to China if you hold foreign passport, Chinese embassy or consulate general do not give hard problem to you in terms of Chinese visa, but other countries (epsecially US) do!!! <br>
Based on this, I just want to get rid of Chinese passport as soon as possible!!! <br>
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The second reason is your PR visa, if you need to go back to China without being Aussie citizenship, you have to renew the visa at least once every 5 year,the RRV application makes you sick because you have to explain a lot to DIMIA and it is more complicated than the application for Chinese visa!!!<br>
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The third reason is related to job hunting. Don't think PR will have exactly the same condition as Aussie citizens.. There are a lot of subtleties which cannnot be expressed in words!!!

kevinsky

想怎么样就去做，别人谁也替不了自己。还有个办法：找一个硬币抛出去，字面就入澳籍，国徽就不入...<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible46311044799'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible46311044799.Play()'>一定要幸福喔！</td></tr></table></p>

yangjr

非常理解楼主的心情，我也尝试想过去放弃中国国籍，加入澳洲国籍，但是感情上怎么也不能很好的接受，就像围城，呵呵。。。<br>
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一个矛盾的例子：如果中国和澳洲争夺足球世界杯的出线权，我该倾向谁呢？<br>
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一个朋友的故事：曾经一位美国籍的台湾朋友，在他几十年前离开台湾去美国的时候，台湾当时外交部长接见他们，跟他们说：“。。。我不期望你们能回来，而且我也并不在乎你们是否会回来，台湾不缺人才。。。”<br>
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对不起楼主，没有建议。

球球

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真的接受不了，就不应该移民.

O3

偶还有不到一年就能入籍， 今年想回国看望家人（趁自己还有中国护照）， 可听说回去后， 再回来就得再待一年（中途不能出境）才能入籍（既入籍的最后一年，得是连续的待在澳洲时间）， 是不是这样啊？？ 各位大虾帮帮忙！！！

leslie

老婆有中国国籍,可以申请中国的永居啊

leslie

不是只要老婆保留中国国籍,两个人两边就都来去自由了吗?

viviancn

拥有澳洲国籍在中国工作倒不麻烦，如果申请长期的工作签证，会同时发一个绿色的居留证给你，有效期到你的雇佣合同到期为止，到期后可以续期。这种工作签证就不用每3个月出境一次（旅游签证？）了，申请时提交雇佣合同、公司相关资料、居留管理费（1年好像1k多还是2k多）就行了。不知道探亲签证最长能呆多久？<br>
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比较麻烦的是小孩的读书问题。大家都知道非本市户口都要收高额费用的，更别说不是中国国籍了。没有中国的户口，还不知道公立学校收不收。

青山

我觉得,中国国籍不等同于炎黄子孙.我为我的黄皮肤,黑眼睛而自豪,为我的华人血统而骄傲,但作为中国公民,至少没有平等的选举自己利益代表的权利.

eltonfive

37楼的兄弟说的太对了

bendanbendan

不用考虑了，凡事都有两面性的。。。。利大于弊就行了。。。