有条件还是移到美国好，美国有进取心

tomorrow77

跟朋友网上聊天。我们觉得，其实，有条件还是移到美国好。原因如下：<br>
1、工作机会多，收入高。<br>
2、更有活力和生机，有旺盛的创新能力。特别是纽约、洛杉矶那样的城市。<br>
3、强大，有进取心，有信仰，对世界有责任感。不像澳洲，只知道享受生活。<br>
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micfox

跟朋友网上聊天。我们觉得，其实，有条件还是移到美国好。原因如下：<br>
1、工作机会多，收入高。<br>
Yes, but the cost is also high and there is no guarantee that you can find a professional job in US as well!!!<br>
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2、更有活力和生机，有旺盛的创新能力。特别是纽约、洛杉矶那样的城市。<br>
If you failed to find a professional job in Australia, then stop considering US!!! Whoever complained about Australia will 100% do the same thing or even harder in US because in Australia, you can still have chance to do labor if you failed to find professional job temporarily.But in US, even though you want to do the labor job for a short time, you don't get a chance especially in NY or LA because the labor jobs are done almost by illegal immigrants!!! <br>
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BTW, the racial discrimination in US is not only on words, but on action as well...(Chinese is subject to be robbed in NY because most of Chinese prefer to taking cash rather than taking credit card and most Chinese in US do not know how important to unit together while Jewish do!!!)<br>
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3、强大，有进取心，有信仰，对世界有责任感。不像澳洲，只知道享受生活。<br>
Hehe .. what can I say about this? It seems you only see one side of the story and ignore the other side!!!<br>

奶酪男007

呵呵,I服了LZ,真的需要那么多不移民澳洲的理由么?

mite

不像澳洲，只知道享受生活<br>
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WHY NOT？<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible48651861608'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/02.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/02.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible48651861608.Play()'>嘿嘿！逗你玩！</td></tr></table></p>

oz

up<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible14015864115'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible14015864115.Play()'>一定要幸福喔！</td></tr></table></p>

Linus

人各有志，有进取心没什么不好，享受田园生活而放弃追逐名利也没什么不对，对生活价值观和追求不同！----只要自己喜欢就好！为什么一定要拿澳洲和美国比出个谁好谁不好呢？？<br>
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人人有权喜欢和选择不同的生活，没什么对不对的说！<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible3189162716'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible3189162716.Play()'>啊你是中邪喔..</td></tr></table></p><P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible3189162716'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible3189162716.Play()'>啊你是中邪喔..</td></tr></table></p><P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible3189162716'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/16.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible3189162716.Play()'>啊你是中邪喔..</td></tr></table></p>

天涯海角

想去美国唯一的目的： 把从前人说的， 电影里看到的感觉找回来。。。<br>
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然后回澳洲，享受生活。。。

chubbycat

<table width=100% bgcolor=#cccccc cellpadding=5 cellspacing=1 class=TBone><tr><td bgcolor=#f7f7f7 class=TBBG9><b>下面引用由<u>tomorrow77</u>发表的内容：</b><br>
<br>
跟朋友网上聊天。我们觉得，其实，有条件还是移到美国好。原因如下：<br>
1、工作机会多，收入高。<br>
2、更有活力和生机，有旺盛的创新能力。特别是纽约、洛杉矶那样的城市。<br>
3、强大，有进取心，有信仰，对世...</td></tr></table><br>
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There's only employer-sponsor immigration available in the US (no skill migration like OZ and Canada) meaning that you'd have to get a professional job fist (and a college degree is required). <br>
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E visa would be a good choice for OZ citizen. See below two links:<br>
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<a target=_blank href=../forum/viewthread.php?tid=600380&AUpflag=1&ANum=1>../forum/viewthread.php?tid=600380&AUpflag=1&ANum=1</a><br>
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<a target=_blank href=../forum/viewthread.php?tid=486314>../forum/viewthread.php?tid=486314</a>

big-apple

能去赶紧去，去不了说它干吗？<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible7639579185'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/01.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/01.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible7639579185.Play()'>就这事啊！地球人都知道</td></tr></table></p>

chubbycat

美国有进取心 - OZ too

天马行空

<table width=100% bgcolor=#cccccc cellpadding=5 cellspacing=1 class=TBone><tr><td bgcolor=#f7f7f7 class=TBBG9><b>下面引用由<u>tomorrow77</u>发表的内容：</b><br>
<br>
跟朋友网上聊天。我们觉得，其实，有条件还是移到美国好。原因如下：<br>
1、工作机会多，收入高。<br>
2、更有活力和生机，有旺盛的创新能力。特别是纽约、洛杉矶那样的城市。<br>
3、强大，有进取心，有信仰，对世...</td></tr></table><br>
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有没有进取心关键看个人，国家的进取心还得看国民的素质，澳洲的现在和将来都会很阳光，因为它有着来自全世界阳光的移民。

chubbycat

1、工作机会多 - if you have good working experience and communication skills, there're lots of opportunities in OZ as well.

cello

恩，这是喜欢讲人文关怀的资深时评员的深刻观点，大家学习。。。

tomorrow77

不可否认，美国是世界的领导者。<br>
没有美国，就没有世界的和平和安宁。<br>
正是有了美国的保护，我们才能在澳洲享受生活。<br>
美国是充满仁爱的，有责任感的，他们积极向上，有正义感。

136mydream

有病<br>
要想工作机会多，收入高，有进取心就不用移民了<br>
在中国呆着吧还是

tpsreset

有条件的话有个美国爹更好，连移民这步都省了直接拿us护照多好----可是没条件啊。<br>
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所以我还是试试移民oz吧，在oz生个小孩我就能给oz人当爹了！<br>
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精神胜利法至少也是一种胜利的方法。不要这样失败嘛，LZ。<br>
<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible947532182'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/01.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/01.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible947532182.Play()'>就这事啊！地球人都知道</td></tr></table></p>

hongmian

如果是一个人，找个工作去闯闯也吧。如果托家带口，还是三思，因为你没有福利。

chubbycat

因为你没有福利 - the benefits will be provided by the employer

wsso

MY GOD

wasch

五年前，我还是个学生，那时候气盛，和楼主一样的想法，<br>
想靠GRE去美国，美国没有要我。<br>
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五年后的今天，我只想去澳洲。<br>
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其实不同的人生阶段所追求的不一样。

micfox

五年前，我还是个学生，那时候气盛，和楼主一样的想法，<br>
想靠GRE去美国，美国没有要我。<br>
Hehe... my situation is similiar to yours..but a bit different...I got the offer with scholarship in the university in US, but I got stumped by US visa even though I have lived in NY for a long time before!!!<br>
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五年后的今天，我只想去澳洲。<br>
My thought is a bit different to you now as well... I still need to go to US and Aussie passport is a must for me to do so!!

chubbycat

sounds like a plan, best wishes!

Breadanddream

美国牛，让人掏钱买票看她的宣传。 而且是专看一流的人和一流的事。