cdutboy20 发表于 18-3-2012 09:45:56

cdutboy20 发表于 18-3-2012 10:08:10

cdutboy20 发表于 18-3-2012 10:21:12

BEN1980 发表于 18-3-2012 13:18:47

太牛了,必须顶.

ginobilis 发表于 18-3-2012 13:45:53

:congra :congra :congra   恭喜牛人,顶!

我爱polo 发表于 18-3-2012 18:05:43

:yct_16 :yct_16 :yct_16

cdutboy20 发表于 19-3-2012 13:50:55

revstar 发表于 19-3-2012 14:19:13

LZ啥行业的啊?

sieben 发表于 19-3-2012 14:59:15

:support: 我是在振奋的大笑中完成此帖的拜读的!太感谢lz给予的思路了:moved :classical:

liuwei8 发表于 19-3-2012 15:10:16

哈哈哈哈哈 LZ好帖子 能推荐几个网站吗?我也打算先offshore试试看~我是做开发的 打算考个pmp 这东西那边有用不?

angelina0508 发表于 19-3-2012 15:18:57

鼓掌

又是一神人,厉害!:good

tristone 发表于 19-3-2012 15:47:13

LZ仍然没有透露自己拿到的offer是哪个行业,具体是什么样的职位。本着对大家负责的态度,我得出来说一句,LZ这个帖子所说的和我所知道的很多方面完全相反,跟我听到的所有aussie对找工的说法也完全相反。打算在OZ找工作的最好不要过于乐观。

以下的comment来自于linkedin的Austrlian IT Industry

@Hany - and any other new imports having trouble having trouble getting back into their fields after moving to Oz.

A few points to help you in your job hunt - apply directly to companies if possible - that gives you the best chance of an interview. Recruiters are there to keep you out of a company - you are not their client, you are their product - you will be treated as such.

It is quite possible to be considered "overqualified" for a job in Oz - I know, it sounds stupid, but it is overwhelmingly my number 1 reason for being rejected. It in fact happens to many of us locals as well. A close runner up for number 2 is wanting more years experience then a technology or product has existed for,

If you can't "click" with the person interviewing you, it doesn't matter how fabulous you are - you are not getting that job. Work on those people skills!

You may feel it's beneath you, but you probably will have to take a lower level job, or make a sideways career move to build up local contacts. Referees are still very important in Oz - and if you have no professional referees, it's even harder to get a job.

It's not necessarily racist that they reject you for no local experience - they do it to locals to. You are probably speaking to a muppet that is collecting resumes and has no real job to offer you. Crying "racist" after every rejection gets you labelled as a "whinger" - and being a "whinger" makes it harder for you to get a job as no one wants to work with one.

Finally - there is no skills shortage - despite government propaganda to the contrary. We have a glut of unemployed locals that can also do these jobs. You need to stand out to get a second look.

总体来说,IT的工作机会是比其他行业多的,但是在目前的市场萧条当中,找到工作还是相当的不容易。

除此之外,对于offshore job seekers,一个重要的提醒是千万别把希望寄托在seek上。用seek找工作是一个极为糟糕的方式,如果不是最糟糕。当然如果你的人品特别好,买彩票经常中的话不妨试试。如果你看过victoria政府给migrant的找工手册的话,你也许会注意到当中提到澳洲有个很大的hidden job market,大多数工作(据说70%+)是在这个隐藏的市场里。

seek用来做maket research有一定价值,但是用来海投的话效果会很差,而且会越来越差,所以不要在这上面浪费太多时间。有限的精力应该用于research你的industry,找出潜在的雇主。只要可能,尽量避免agent。因为agent的所谓面试只是为了过滤掉大多数candidate。如果一定要走agent,直接打电话过去是最为高效的方法(我电话联系了三个agent,敲定了一份工作)。

dreamcat 发表于 19-3-2012 15:57:10

我猜楼主是SAP顾问吧,看楼主之前的职业评估

cdutboy20 发表于 19-3-2012 16:05:01

tristone 发表于 19-3-2012 16:14:53

原帖由 cdutboy20 于 19-3-2012 17:05 发表 http://www.freeoz.org/ibbs/images/common/back.gif
是的, 我是搞SAP的


SAP的找工不太具有参考价值。

我认识一个乌克兰的SAP顾问,操着一口生硬的俄式英文(差不多雅思过6的水平),一样找到工作。

lippea 发表于 20-3-2012 12:56:37

有人提到了Hidden Job Market,搜了一下,找到两篇不错的文章:
How to Access the Hidden Job Market:http://www.start-a-new-life-in-australia.com/australian-jobs.html#axzz1pcWeug1c
Successful Australian Job Search Strategy Part II: http://www.nabthatjob.com/apps/blog/show/1943684-successful-australian-job-search-strategy-part-ii

huanged 发表于 20-3-2012 15:02:13

sap是黄金职业啊,别说找工作,论坛里还有SAPer offshore拿到457。

zzqg 发表于 20-3-2012 20:27:25

膜拜高手。主要是写的好:loveliness:

cdutboy20 发表于 21-3-2012 21:10:44

ayuanx 发表于 21-3-2012 21:20:46

职业不同差别很大,澳洲的市场决定的

职业不对口就是神仙也难找工作

tristone 发表于 21-3-2012 21:42:52

原帖由 cdutboy20 于 21-3-2012 22:10 发表 http://www.freeoz.org/ibbs/images/common/back.gif
谢谢各位捧场,明天白天再来给大家分享如何应付reference check


您的许多说法不是帮人,如果别人听了也许是害人。

nothing personal

只是您的经验确实对绝大多数人没用

Fleischmann 发表于 22-3-2012 16:41:58

谢谢经验分享,学习了

萄葡 发表于 5-4-2012 19:36:01

LZ写得很精彩,再下一步,内推呗;P

richardzha 发表于 5-4-2012 20:18:40

SAP行业不是你找工,是工找你. 和其他找工有天壤之别.和本IT类的其他也有差别.

如把简历里SAP换成IT类其他的, 其余照你的做,不是大大牛,给你两年时间offshore也不定找的到.

Serin 发表于 5-4-2012 20:54:39

LZ给的一些面试上的建议还是很有见地的。:good

revstar 发表于 5-4-2012 21:46:16

等LZ reference check经验

gamesover 发表于 5-4-2012 22:10:27

其实说到底是lz在一个黄金行业,于绝大多数同学无缘
比如我就知道澳洲很多采矿公司直接在中国几所著名矿大招毕业生来澳工作,有无借鉴意义呢?
你干SAP,根本不用这些所谓技巧一样找到工作
不是干这一行的,打个比方在富士康里干生产管理的,在澳洲这种制造业沙漠里,能找份工就算不错了,离岸就不用想了

rich 发表于 6-4-2012 23:36:37

很棒的经验分享,面试技巧很厉害!:good

rich 发表于 6-4-2012 23:39:26

看来SAP蛮吃香,离岸都能找到工作。
好像之前也有个SAP离岸找到工伤的

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灯火阑珊 发表于 7-4-2012 08:34:21

感谢楼主热心,但只能说楼主是牛人,对我等大众没有指导意义!
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