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[经验分享] 澳洲求职经验交流(面试篇)

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《面试篇》
一.中介面试
其实中介的面试并不是真正的面试,作为一个掮客,她所做的不过是从自己的资源中推荐合适人选给雇主。

这个人选不一定是最好的,比如说Hudson曾同时代理两个工作内容相似职位,一个lower middle的,一个upper middle的。我的发简历申请的是前者,可Hudson把我的简历送到后者去了。
我认为自己申请前者把握很大,但中介有她的考虑,或许她已经有了不如我,但却是合适的人选;而我虽然不是后者的有力竞争者,但却是其手中最合适的棋子。

中介也要讨生活,大家都不容易。
所以,不要只和一个中介联系。

说回“面试”来。
我觉得所谓中介的面试,更多的是对个人整体的一个考量,特别是对你是否适合某雇主的评估。

中介是不懂技术的,所以不用担心他问你技术问题;
中介是八面玲珑的,要小心自己的嘴巴;
比如有一次中介在没有透露雇主信息之前问我对赌博的看法,我的回答是never ever赌,连彩票都不买,anti赌博,结果这是家博彩公司。

如果是电话面试,正常的语速,有条理的回答,适当的反问。
总之,个人的看法是要从整体上convince对方你是一个思维清晰,反应敏捷的专业人士。

澳洲,工作多集中在哪几个城市,跨地区申请是很正常的事情。
个人的经验是不跨地区申请contract工作;跨地区申请时一定要有非常充足的理由。
我曾经申请一个新西兰的工作,中介打电话过来和我聊了大半个小时,对我很满意,可最后他很诚恳的回复不能把我推荐给雇主,因为我迁移到新西兰的东西无法让他信服。
我说的原因是新西兰很漂亮,打算去工作,旅游两年,这真是心里话。

后来我给小Kiddy跨区申请工作出主意的时候,想了个原因,
Because one of my lovers she's moving to ***, so you know 碰到男中介就加一句 women are hopeless;碰到女中介就来一句 I have no choice, don't want to lose her。

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 楼主| 发表于 21-4-2007 18:33:51 | 只看该作者
二.雇主面试
我们按照第一次技术面试,第二次情商面试的分类,次序来谈,或许在现实不同的情况下两者次序颠倒,抑或融合,Who knows。

通常能拿到雇主的面试,机会就已经很大了。大家都很忙,连MM都没时间勾搭,更何况和陌生男子的约会。

技术面试
扣紧中介给你的职位说明做准备,那就是我们的考试大纲;
联系自己提交的个人简历,那就是我们的应试宝典。做过的项目,时间,地点,流程,型号,配置,记忆要具体到最微小的细节。

回答问题的时候要果断,哼哼唧唧的不是爷们。
如果被问到不懂的地方,直接坦白,大家都是出来混的。然后退一步,but i do have some experience in ***, for example ***,把话题引到相关的你熟悉的领域。
如果被问到半懂步懂的地方,就说I am major in ***, so not a *** guru. But I like  learning new staff. 然后坦白的谈你对**的理解,别装蛤蟆。
如果被问到细节自己又想不起来,就告诉对方暂时记不起来,但在自己每天都做的工作笔记中有(闪光点),而且我现在可以把解决该问题的流程(闪光点)讲给你。

总之,一说实话,二反应要快。
而且注意你的Team leader希望你是个技术专才,而你的CEO或者Manager却希望你面要广些,见人说人话,见鬼说鬼话了,呵呵。


情商面试
其实这是最不好过的关,因为主观性实在太强,加之用非母语表达,很容易因为紧张而影响反应,思维。
在这里只是与大家分享一些个人觉得不错的问题:

×你的弱点是什末?
Astina同学曾经这样回答,因为英语毕竟不是我的母语,所以有时候语言上还会碰到问题,但我们一直在努力,爱多VCD:)
我在面试中借用了Astina的这个问答;面试官的回答是Actually, i am astonished by your English;这是个以退为进的回答。
我的第二个回答是工作文化差异,因为在中国Hard workding被认为是一种美德,所以有时候自己在工作中表现的有些Aggressive,但会注意和同事的配合;面试官的回答是No problem;这也是个以退为进的回答。这个回答是参考Peggy同学的提示。
语言,文化,就是新移民的两座大山,我们勇于承认问题,面对问题,解决问题,这样的人才能不招人爱嘛!

×你的优点是什末?
Like challenge,Hard working,还有谁能比我们这些移民有资格说。
When you briefly explain to an employer what you have achived since you arrived in this new country, their reaction would be one of admiration.  This says many things about you that make you an attractive candidate for a job - your
technical skills and experience are just one of many things that you can offer.

×当你和上级意见不统一时怎末办?
呵呵,自己想。

×你是更注重公司的氛围还是所在的团队的氛围?
哈,自己想。

×你在×年内的职业发展规划?
事先注意收集对方公司的资料,使自己的发展规划与对方公司的情况以及对你的期望相契合。

×举一个你职业生涯中失败的例子
我想每个人都有自己的故事,但重要的不是失败,而是But,是你在随后的描述,退一步进两步。

×举一个你为过去公司带来实际效益的例子
这个要事先想清楚,不然很容易晕。我举了两个例子,一给××公司做了一个调优,使其不必升级系统而用现有资源满足了需求,把例子从Notebook里调出来;二建议××公司取消了××选购计划,因为再过×月下一代产品就上市,目前可以通过别的手段暂时满足需求。面试官紧接着就追问我为什末会知道,我说因为我天天都用大宝,定技术期刊。
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 楼主| 发表于 21-4-2007 18:36:34 | 只看该作者
随便说点相关的题外话吧。

Offer的选择
有时候大家会面对几个Offer,不知所措。说实话,金钱的诱惑力还是很大的:)不过我始终觉得你的Career是更重要的。

一份工作不过是你Career计划中的一块垫脚石,不要割趾就ji;
而你的Career不过是你个人生活的一部分,出卖劳动换取报酬,个人的理想与追求才是动力的本源,不要因小失大。


狗年到了,祝大家新年快乐!
对于我们这些在海外工作的华人,无论如何文化的根始终在中国,割舍不断。终究有一天我们会回去用自己的技术,才干建设我们自己的国家。
狗年到了,祝我们的祖国繁荣富强!祝我们的民族兴旺昌盛!


注:
2006年此文我曾发于几个澳洲移民论坛,现重新完整贴上,希望能给大家一些参考,也请各位不吝指正.
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发表于 21-4-2007 18:44:06 | 只看该作者
one of my lovers : 牛
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发表于 21-4-2007 19:25:19 | 只看该作者
很好的经验,特别是对刚来的,加点分表示感谢。
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发表于 21-4-2007 20:04:44 | 只看该作者
哥们的确是牛人啊,呵呵
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发表于 21-4-2007 21:59:25 | 只看该作者
谢谢搂住分享,收起来先。希望不久的将来能有机会拿出来用用
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发表于 21-4-2007 22:26:20 | 只看该作者
有价值的作品,老大卫是独具慧眼啊
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发表于 21-4-2007 23:31:48 | 只看该作者
this article is of great value
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发表于 22-4-2007 00:48:22 | 只看该作者
关于面试时问到的一些优缺点的补充,是个LOCAL的经常给人面试的人写的,希望有些启发

Job interview tips: Weakness/strengths

Don't you just hate that moment in a job interview when you're asked to reveal your strengths and weaknesses?

As if you are going to answer truthfully. "My strengths include being a really good party host and my weaknesses include the fact that my mind often wanders to thoughts about my next party when I am supposed to be adding up figures." Yeah right.

I know a sales consultant who told her interviewer point blank: "You don't really expect me to tell you my weaknesses?" She got the job. However, when interviewing with experts such as a recruitment consultant or a human resources professional using humour or candour is a risk so proceed with caution. What might prove a great answer for a candidate for a sales job might prove a wrong move for someone else.

I saw a really good answer to the weakness question in the DVD Winning the career you deserve produced by Bill Lang International. The DVD has eight segments but in the one on interviews an actor fields the question by saying: "I don't have a weakness that would affect my ability to do this role successfully."

Graham Smith of Heritage Recruitment said asking a candidate about their strengths and weaknesses was an important way to test his or her suitability for a particular role.
"You are trying to see if the person has a sense of his or her own limitations," he said. "You also want to know what the person is good at and how that might fit into the role you are trying to fill."

"The interviewer wants to make sure the candidate has the right 'behaviours' and skills for the job. After the interview, the interviewer will then verify that the candidate has the skills they claim to."

"For example, is the person good at problem-solving? Will they work well in a team? Do they have an eye for detail and are they a self-starter?"

Both Mr Smith and Nicole Gorton, Australian branch manager of OfficeTeam, said it was very important to provide specific examples to demonstrate your "strengths".

Known as "behavioural interviewing", this is where the candidate is asked: "Tell me about a time when you..." So make sure you have specific examples to back up everything you rehearse for your interview.

A sales consultant who said a strength was the fact he or she was "driven by results" should follow with an example of a time when he or she achieved say 100 per cent of their monthly target in three weeks or consistently achieved more than 100 per cent of targets each month or quarter.

Someone in retail or hospitality could be "passionate about customer service" and recall a time of going out of their way to fulfil a customer or guest's request. Make sure your examples are truthful and can be verified by your referee.

Simon Tobin, a director of Michael Page Finance and Ms Gorton both said to relate "weaknesses" that were really strengths and not to use the word "weakness".

"Start the sentence with, 'my area for improvement is'," said Ms Gorton. Also, nominate a skill you don't actually need on the job like languages. Being able to say you are actively trying to change your weakness into a strength is also a good idea.
For example, "My area for improvement is public speaking and I have just enrolled in a toastmaster's course."

Mr Smith said: "I ask. 'Give me an example of a situation when you were not successful, what you did, and how you felt about it?"

"I want to know that someone can encounter a knock back and be robust enough to cope with it and get on with the job," he said.

[ 本帖最后由 zesty 于 21-4-2007 22:53 编辑 ]

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发表于 3-2-2008 01:14:41 | 只看该作者
顶一下单衣兄,论调精辟详尽,很有参考价值。我觉得与中介面试时最主要是让他了解你的卖点在哪里,然后看尽量能卖个好价钱,中介是拿佣金的,谁都希望能拿多点。要准备一份好的简历和supporting documents,要求中介改一下,面试前自己go through一次要点,注意的东西要列一份清单,以防遗漏。楼主,面试时问文化差异的比重高吗?

[ 本帖最后由 赛骆驼 于 3-2-2008 01:15 编辑 ]
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发表于 15-3-2009 09:33:25 | 只看该作者
还不够过瘾,TZ是否有更多localize的经验呢?例如针对目前经济危机的压力,本地公司,国际公司,都是有针对性才有对应的准备。或许很多TZ都有一些好招,大家贡献咯
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