租房合同上的最大人数通常怎么处理？

jerry_oz

租房合同上有租客最多人数一项。
Maximum number of occupants，
No more than___________ persons may ordinarily live in the premises at any one time.
中介要求按现在申请租房的人数填。
但考虑后面父母可能来住一段时间。 希望合同上max人数+2。
中介说，家人来过live for a holiday非permanent stay的情况是允许的，但合同的最大人数还是要按现在申请的人数写。我问怎么界定是不是holiday stay中介也不说清楚。

查了下fairtrading，对Additional occupants 是这样说的：
If you just want to have an additional occupant you do not need to tell the landlord or agent who they are, or get their consent.
However, you must not exceed the maximum number of permitted occupants stated on the lease。
Reasonable refusal
        As mentioned above the landlord cannot unreasonably say no to requests from you to sub–let part of the premises or take on a new co–tenant. The law gives some   examples as to when it is reasonable for the landlord to say no. These are:
        if the total number of occupants permitted under the lease would be exceeded
        if the total number of occupants would exceed any local council rules and regulations
        if the person being proposed is listed on a tenancy database
        if they reasonably believe it would result in the premises being overcrowded.
        This is not an exhaustive list. There may be other situations where it would be reasonable to decline your request.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.a ... _a_rented_home.page

也就是说，如果合同上写了最多n个人，房东完全有理由拒绝第n+1个人住进来。
感觉按中介的要求写的话可能是坑。

这个情况，请问大家一般是怎么处理的？
签合同时定这个max num有什么原则/依据吗？

西澳海豚

一般来说，写上房间 x 2 的住客人数，都算合理！

例如：三间卧房～6 人，四间卧房～8人，依此类推

jerry_oz

西澳海豚 发表于 1-4-2016 20:08
一般来说，写上房间 x 2 的住客人数，都算合理！

例如：三间卧房～6 人，四间卧房～8人，依此类推

谢谢。。

这个算法有出处吗？ 比如啥啥 council regulation。。  
我觉得和agent/landlord谈最好有据可循。

还有，小孩也顶一个吗？  2房 4大1小，就是常规一家５口的配置，这个算合理吧？

西澳海豚

自己查一下吧！

jerry_oz

我查到一些描述，不过没有找到regulation中正式的条款。
这里把我找到的信息贴出来。

The term “overcrowding” is commonly used for the situation where the number of occupants exceeds that for which there is designated space for sleeping. It has become widely accepted that the maximum number of adults living in an apartment should not exceed 2 per bedroom.
in 2006 the City of Sydney introduced a consent condition for apartments that limits adult occupants to two per bedroom;
http://greenstrata.com.au/topic/combating-overcrowding:

Exceeding Maximum Number of Occupants - if the tenancy agreement specifies a maximum number of occupants of the premises, then the tenant must not allow the amount of people living there to exceed that number.
Temporary, short-term guests usually do not count as an occupant. However, if a person starts to live on a permanent basis at the premises and doing so will exceed a maximum number of occupants, then the tenant should inform the landlord to negotiate an outcome.
https://info.flatmates.com.au/nsw-tenant-rights-obligations

西澳海豚

jerry_oz 发表于 1-4-2016 20:35
我查到一些描述，不过没有找到regulation中正式的条款。
这里把我找到的信息贴出来。

我也只是有印象，不能确定也忘记在哪里有看到过，所以请你自己去查证了！

pepin2007