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发表于 23-9-2013 08:18:20 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

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是不是开发iphone软件最便宜的硬件是ipod touch?看了下价格,实在舍不得买iphone4s, iphone 5, ipad,都比android 贵

非公司开发,自己买来学习,以防失业啦

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发表于 23-9-2013 16:55:05 | 只看该作者
If you think about your future career in NZ, why not do the .NET related development? It seems that large number of positions exist here and the pay is said higher than PHP programmer.

If I couldn't find a job, I would practice .NET. Just shortly after I finished the installation of Visual Studio 2008 in my PC, I got an offer for Andorid APP position.

I'm pessimistic about Apple's market.

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发表于 23-9-2013 17:28:08 | 只看该作者
xcode有模拟器的
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 楼主| 发表于 23-9-2013 19:49:18 | 只看该作者

Yes, I am developing website using asp.net mvc in .net 4.5.
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 17:14:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 DDD888 于 10-10-2013 11:52 编辑

I got permission from my wife and I bought a ipod touch 5g from warehouse for NZ$289.

The sad thing is the ios version is 6.1.3 which means there is no known method to jailbreak the device. I have no problem with apple. I just simply don't want to pay US$99 each year without any opportunity to earn that money back.
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 17:16:23 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 DDD888 于 7-10-2013 07:40 编辑

My initial experience is that apple is so cheap on the ipod touch. The physical button is only the power button and the home button and two sound volume button. It does not have back button like my samsung galaxy s2 phone got which I paid around NZ$700 long time ago.
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 17:26:58 | 只看该作者
I browsed the website I wrote and it works

Now the website supports all major browsers i.e. ie 6, ie 7, ie 8, ie 9, ie 10, ie 11, firefox, chrome and apple safari.
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发表于 6-10-2013 17:38:22 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 6-10-2013 17:26
I browsed the website I wrote and it works

Now the website supports all major browsers i ...

怎么从iPhone开发跳跃到web开发了?
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 17:47:52 | 只看该作者
ubuntuhk 发表于 6-10-2013 17:38
怎么从iPhone开发跳跃到web开发了?

I develop website since 2002 using j2ee.

My boss complained to me that one customer using iphone cannot visit the website I develop. I just need to verify myself.
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发表于 6-10-2013 17:48:46 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 6-10-2013 17:47
I develop website since 2002 using j2ee.

My boss complained to me that one customer using ipho ...


原来如此,那这样老板还不给你公费买个iphone啊,太抠了。
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 18:15:32 | 只看该作者
ubuntuhk 发表于 6-10-2013 17:48
原来如此,那这样老板还不给你公费买个iphone啊,太抠了。

I was suggesting to my boss to develop android application for the replacement for the website. The application development is finished and the customer is really happy about the application and no need to go apple way. Thus the boss is not willing to fund any development in apple. The trouble for me is most job ads in NZ want the developer can develop in android and iphone. I have to invest myself just in case I lose my current job. My wife do not want me to get lower paid job than my current job if I lose my current job.
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 楼主| 发表于 6-10-2013 18:53:50 | 只看该作者
It seems that once install following two applications, there is no need to jailbreak the ios device. I just tried the skype without providing apple my visa credit card and it works.

http://www.itools.cn/download.php?v=pc_en
http://kiplingmerah.wordpress.co ... nya-link-donlotnya/
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发表于 7-10-2013 00:02:17 | 只看该作者
让你老板外包给我做行了,费这么多劲干嘛?
Objective-C和java很不同,很不同。。。这边的市场真的很小,经常需要一个人同时需要做iPhone和Android,效果可想而知。不过要真全部你做了,估计公司就缺不了你了。
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 楼主| 发表于 7-10-2013 01:03:21 | 只看该作者
gdzack 发表于 7-10-2013 00:02
让你老板外包给我做行了,费这么多劲干嘛?
Objective-C和java很不同,很不同。。。这边的市场真的很小 ...

那我吃啥啊?
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发表于 7-10-2013 01:08:47 | 只看该作者

你可以把你老板的那份吃了
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 楼主| 发表于 7-10-2013 06:00:56 | 只看该作者
gdzack 发表于 7-10-2013 01:08
你可以把你老板的那份吃了

Impossible
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 楼主| 发表于 7-10-2013 07:54:38 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 DDD888 于 7-10-2013 07:56 编辑

I just checked the url below and found that iphone 5s is fast compare to samsung tab 2.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424668,00.asp
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 楼主| 发表于 7-10-2013 08:09:48 | 只看该作者
gdzack 发表于 7-10-2013 00:02
让你老板外包给我做行了,费这么多劲干嘛?
Objective-C和java很不同,很不同。。。这边的市场真的很小 ...

BTW, I guess it's not a big deal to program in Objective-C considering that I was developing in C++ using Visual C++ MFC since 1995. It should be a piece of cake.
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 楼主| 发表于 9-10-2013 21:06:42 | 只看该作者
chainray 发表于 23-9-2013 17:28
xcode有模拟器的

我不太喜欢模拟器啦,现在使用模拟器来运行程序,非常不满意,心想着要出99美元一年来买个apple developer account,我最讨厌花钱啦.
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 楼主| 发表于 9-10-2013 21:11:27 | 只看该作者
使用了os lion,简直是痛恨这操作系统,把我的手都弄酸啦
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发表于 9-10-2013 22:05:47 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 9-10-2013 21:06
我不太喜欢模拟器啦,现在使用模拟器来运行程序,非常不满意,心想着要出99美元一年来买个apple developer a ...

模拟器和手机上显示会有不同,而且有的第三方库在模拟器上也用不了。
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发表于 9-10-2013 22:08:51 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 9-10-2013 21:11
使用了os lion,简直是痛恨这操作系统,把我的手都弄酸啦

你是用苹果机吗?我觉得苹果系统比windows好用太多了,特别对写程序不玩游戏的,设置和调试起来都比windows方便得多。一个terminal什么都能搞定。其他linux系统我没怎么用过,但不会比Mac好很多吧。不过记住不要用鼠标。
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 楼主| 发表于 10-10-2013 06:21:39 | 只看该作者
gdzack 发表于 9-10-2013 22:08
你是用苹果机吗?我觉得苹果系统比windows好用太多了,特别对写程序不玩游戏的,设置和调试起来都比windo ...

I cannot afford to buy a mac, I just install lion on a virtual machine.
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发表于 10-10-2013 09:07:28 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 10-10-2013 06:21
I cannot afford to buy a mac, I just install lion on a virtual machine.

我无话可说,要不你试一下在PC上面使用Android模拟器来浏览网站?看看你能撑多久?
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 楼主| 发表于 10-10-2013 11:04:58 | 只看该作者
gdzack 发表于 10-10-2013 09:07
我无话可说,要不你试一下在PC上面使用Android模拟器来浏览网站?看看你能撑多久?

没办法啦,靠工资吃饭,没有额外的钱来买苹果啦
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发表于 10-10-2013 11:10:27 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 6-10-2013 17:47
I develop website since 2002 using j2ee.

My boss complained to me that one customer using ipho ...


You can use front-end frameworks (e.g. bootstrap) which provide cross device support quite well to develop the web apps.

I am a web and iOS developer myself. If you want to learn iOS development well, the best choice is to buy a mac and iPhone (at least iPod touch) since the simulator is different from physical device.
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 楼主| 发表于 10-10-2013 11:48:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 DDD888 于 10-10-2013 11:50 编辑
spaceship 发表于 10-10-2013 11:10
You can use front-end frameworks (e.g. bootstrap) which provide cross device support quite well  ...


Thanks for the tip

I don't want to use front-end framework. It won't give me more job opportunity/higher salary by using a framework vs native code development on iphone etc.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I already bought a ipod touch 5g and installed lion with xcode 4.5 on a virtual machine.
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发表于 10-10-2013 11:54:38 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 10-10-2013 11:48
Thanks for the tip

I don't want to use front-end framework. It won't give me more job opportu ...

Agreed! That's how I started my native iOS development. Keep in touch, we may share some experiences. Which city are you living in?

and Sorry, I missed that post ;)
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 楼主| 发表于 10-10-2013 12:01:14 | 只看该作者
spaceship 发表于 10-10-2013 11:54
Agreed! That's how I started my native iOS development. Keep in touch, we may share some experienc ...

North Shore,
Auckland,
New Zealand
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发表于 10-10-2013 12:21:22 | 只看该作者
DDD888 发表于 10-10-2013 12:01
North Shore,
Auckland,
New Zealand

... very far away.
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