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作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 17:08
标题: 该急着登陆吗？
大家讨论一下，现在OZ的经济似乎还是很不明朗，那些准签，榆钱，包括那些分CO的人们该不该准备急着长登或短登？

I remember during one meeting, we, the whole team, was told by the manager, you still got a job at the moment, you have to consider yourself lucky already! And from the news we know that the economy, job market in Australia even turns more gloomy during this worldwide recession, still difficult to see the bottom out yet!

At this critical time, should those ppl planning of relocating to OZ should go ahead - resign/quit the current job or just keep and wait?

So happy to hear the comments from all of u guys, esp those work in OZ already.

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 17:35
nobody join in ...?

作者: 阿土伯 时间: 26-5-2009 18:05
It can demonstrate your ability in this hard time. 疾风知劲草，乱世出英雄。

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 18:07
标题: 回复 #3 aaron_li2k 的帖子
Seems that is the only excuse to tender!
"英雄所见略同", man!

作者: kevinwolf 时间: 26-5-2009 18:23
for guys, i would say go ahead and do everything you wanna do in OZ especailly at this poor economic situation and condition since the guy said that 乱世出英雄. Once you realized money is bull shit but the cozy and quiet life is significant, you will feel OZ is your right choice!

for myself, i prefer to get my visa and relocate to OZ as soon as possible becasuse i need free and no more god damn boring persons

[ 本帖最后由 kevinwolf 于 26-5-2009 19:18 编辑 ]

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 18:31
标题: 回复 #5 kevinwolf 的帖子
Yeah, each coin has two sides, the downturn doesn't mean everything is negative.
But it is really HARD to carry the very first step! it needs a great courage esp those who have got a so called "family" already, m i rite?

作者: wsdy007 时间: 26-5-2009 18:43
这英文

。准备好了就去，没有准备好，就先在国内呆着，任何时候都有机会，都是给有准备、有能力的人的

作者: stellahie 时间: 26-5-2009 18:45
是我的话，我会很犹豫。短登似乎是个不错的选择。和当地的朋友或中介谈谈那里的就业情况，再作决定吧。

英雄也是要养家糊口的，不是吗？除非你真得很讨厌目前的工作环境，恨不得下一秒就递辞职信。

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 18:48
标题: 回复 #7 wsdy007 的帖子
我想不单单是语言的问题而已，如果你的专业范围比较窄比较深的那一类，又碰上这百年一遇的危机也是不容易的。至少心态上得做很大的调整。

作者: xq052b 时间: 26-5-2009 18:51
比较窄,比较深的才好找工作了
大路货的工作,竞争的人那么多

作者: 阿土伯 时间: 26-5-2009 18:55
很犹豫，其实我。
现在工作呢，不死不活的。每天都不用干活，薪水呢，不高不低。
但是，我的目标就是澳洲。如果现在不准备好，什么时候能准备好呢？或者说，我有准备好的一天吗？

犹豫中，不过初步打算是，学会开车，稍微练练英语后。春节期间过去。

Nothing is perfect. But you can perfect it.

作者: stellahie 时间: 26-5-2009 19:00
标题: 回复 #11 aaron_li2k 的帖子
你在SG学开车？干吗不在AU学呢？

我打算到了那里才来学车呢。

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:05

原帖由 aaron_li2k 于 26-5-2009 18:55 发表

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不过初步打算是，学会开车，稍微练练英语后
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it is not cheap to learn driving in SG. it cost me about 2.1k to get a license here from CDC(Comfort Driving Center).
if u r lucky, u get urself passed easily for the 1st time, otherwise, it burns up ur cash like speeding! I dun understand why SG so ridiculous to set a circuit test here? a lot of my colleagues told me they got their license at ease from UK, Malaysia, New Zealand, even US without any circuit driving!

English, shouldn't be an issue for u in SG, rite?

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:07

原帖由 stellahie 于 26-5-2009 19:00 发表

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你在SG学开车？干吗不在AU学呢？

我打算到了那里才来学车呢。

i agree, i think it is much cheaper and easier to get a license in Au than in SG.

作者: kevinwolf 时间: 26-5-2009 19:09

原帖由 stellahie 于 26-5-2009 18:45 发表

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是我的话，我会很犹豫。短登似乎是个不错的选择。和当地的朋友或中介谈谈那里的就业情况，再作决定吧。

英雄也是要养家糊口的，不是吗？除非你真得很讨厌目前的工作环境，恨不得下一秒就递辞职信。

哈哈，我同意．我的辞职信已经准备好了，只要签证准了，就发出去．说实话虽然自己的工作非常不错，但是每天要面对所谓的办公室政治和很多无聊的事情和人的话，我宁愿不要这种生活！

作者: kevinwolf 时间: 26-5-2009 19:12

原帖由 gpoint 于 26-5-2009 18:31 发表

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Yeah, each coin has two sides, the downturn doesn't mean everything is negative.
But it is really HARD to carry the very first step! it needs a great courage esp those who have got a so called "famil ...

yep, perfect!

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:21

原帖由 kevinwolf 于 26-5-2009 19:09 发表

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哈哈，我同意．我的辞职信已经准备好了，只要签证准了，就发出去．说实话虽然自己的工作非常不错，但是每天要面对所谓的办公室政治和很多无聊的事情和人的话，我宁愿不要这种生活！

my wife has a similar situation as u, dat's y she keeps pushing me to OZ. Actually for myself, my job duty, payment, job prospect still quite ok for me especially at this downturn time.

wat's more, it costs a lot to settle down a new home in OZ, at the same time, u have 2 give up all the stuff u have, dun talk about the house first, just those furniture will burn out a big hole in ur pocket already, such as LCD TV, fridge, washing machine, sofa, books, car... it really needs some courage to move out the first step!

作者: stellahie 时间: 26-5-2009 19:23
我觉得冷门的行业人脉和机遇很重要呢。不知道LZ在AU有什么门路了吗？

作者: stellahie 时间: 26-5-2009 19:30
标题: 回复 #17 gpoint 的帖子
我想我明白你所说的调整心态是什么意思，那就是要准备好“花大$”的心态。

如果你们暂时不需要2份薪水，那就叫你老婆先辞职在家好好研究搬家的事。而你就负责专心的赚$。

定下一个双方都同意的时间表，再朝着这个目标迈进吧。

哎，我们也曾经碰过同样的问题。沟通很重要。我能够理解你的担心都是为了你们将来的生活有一定的质量保障。

[ 本帖最后由 stellahie 于 26-5-2009 19:34 编辑 ]

作者: sparkzhu 时间: 26-5-2009 19:32
这个好像是要看职业的，LZ是什么职业

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:34

原帖由 stellahie 于 26-5-2009 19:23 发表

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我觉得冷门的行业人脉和机遇很重要呢。不知道LZ在AU有什么门路了吗？

So far nope.

作者: kevinwolf 时间: 26-5-2009 19:35

原帖由 gpoint 于 26-5-2009 19:21 发表

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my wife has a similar situation as u, dat's y she keeps pushing me to OZ. Actually for myself, my job duty, payment, job prospect still quite ok for me especially at this downturn time.

wat's m ...

haha, man, you got stress from your wife! you know, for a woman, she wants quite simple, just two things: excellent husband and cozy and simple life, that is enough!Because we are man, so we must do everything what your parents and your wife want!

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:36

原帖由 stellahie 于 26-5-2009 19:30 发表

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我想我明白你所说的调整心态是什么意思，那就是要准备好“花大$”的心态。

如果你们暂时不需要2份薪水，那就叫你老婆先辞职在家好好研究搬家的事。而你就负责专心的赚$。

定下一个双方都同意的时间表，再 ...

Good idea, i try to convince her to tender.

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:36

原帖由 sparkzhu 于 26-5-2009 19:32 发表

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这个好像是要看职业的，LZ是什么职业

i m a firmware engineer.

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:37
标题: 回复 #22 kevinwolf 的帖子
Yeah, that's y ppl say it s not easy to be MAN.

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 19:44
先回家去了，明天再来跟大家论讨了。
老大不懂我上班在做些啥，最近把办公室移到FreeOZ上来了好像！

作者: 阿土伯 时间: 26-5-2009 20:10
整天心不在焉。真的是完蛋了。一天到晚就是想着：
澳洲的别墅那么便宜，车子那么便宜。过去怎么样租房。。。

真的很难下决心。不过现在不去，以后更加没有机会了。
广东人话：人又老，钱又毛，老婆又走佬。

作者: njwdj 时间: 26-5-2009 20:35

原帖由 gpoint 于 26-5-2009 17:08 发表

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大家讨论一下，现在OZ的经济似乎还是很不明朗，那些准签，榆钱，包括那些分CO的人们该不该准备急着长登或短登？

I remember during one meeting, we, the whole team, was told by the manager, you still got a ...

I wonder what occupation you have been pursuing. Firmware engineer? As subsequent someone said, I guess your occupation will be in demand if that belongs to a relative unusual sort, after all, you will be faced with fewer competitors. Of course, there is disadvantage for uncommon career sorts, under the circumstance, opportunity will be more important. My suggestion is that you would not pay attention to the present local economy. You should set off without hesitation and delay if you are granted. Don't you imagine such a possibility? for example, you stay inland to await an uncertain Australian economical recovery, whereas, others are seeking job offers in Australia, and then, when you compose your thoughts to order your airline ticket, others may be far ahead of you and get job offers! So, never be hesitant whether be inland or going abroad. On the other hand, you would pay for lower expense including rent,traffic and food if you land Australia under such depressed economical circumstance, on the contrary, there is no doubt that flourishing markets will bring about higher living cost,in particular if you do not own a normal job,in that case, don't you regard flourishing economy as living stress? As you know, immigrants do not have social welfare during the first two years.

Once getting visa, you will be involved a fresh life, whether booming future or depressed situation, it would not impede a definite goal.

Anyway,firmware engineer... It sounds nice hopeful career, make up your mind asap.

[ 本帖最后由 njwdj 于 26-5-2009 20:59 编辑 ]

作者: njwdj 时间: 26-5-2009 20:48

原帖由 aaron_li2k 于 26-5-2009 20:10 发表

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....广东人话：人又老，钱又毛，老婆又走佬...

能不能, 用普通话解释一下这个话是什么意思啊?

作者: stellahie 时间: 26-5-2009 21:37
标题: 回复 #29 njwdj 的帖子
这句我会！人又老，钱又没，老婆又跟人走掉了。。。

作者: PatrickGuo 时间: 26-5-2009 21:40
还是谨慎一点吧

作者: gpoint 时间: 26-5-2009 23:13

原帖由 njwdj 于 26-5-2009 20:35 发表

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I wonder what occupation you have been pursuing. Firmware engineer? As subsequent someone said, I guess your occupation will be in demand if that belongs to a relative unusual sort, after all, ...

yep, get so much encouragement from ur words! It is true that all those daily expense and other consumption at a lower cost at this critical stage. yeah, i got less competitors within those low-level language programming and hardware troubleshooting. (of cos in a lower job chances as well) and that is the precise reason why i can even gained a position in a MNC at my current company (i got my new job at the very beginning of the recession).

Thanks for ur words once again!

作者: liualice004 时间: 27-5-2009 00:07
For engineer, OZ got different market demands now, but IT biz is very quite now globally.

You can check Careerone.com.au for more reference, upload your resume on it for further concern.

Good luck, all.

作者: gpoint 时间: 27-5-2009 00:18
标题: 回复 #33 liualice004 的帖子
Heihei... haven't got the time to update my resume.

but i m wondering that even i send out resume now, will they bother to look at my application without a proper local address and contact No?

"Swagging" in FreeOZ during office hour is still "okey", but updating personal resume is really awkward if spot by colleagues or manager.

作者: stellahie 时间: 27-5-2009 00:22
标题: 回复 #34 gpoint 的帖子
You will stand a higher chance being physically in AU and able to attend interviews.

Where are you heading to?

作者: liualice004 时间: 27-5-2009 00:25

原帖由 gpoint 于 27-5-2009 00:18 发表

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Heihei... haven't got the time to update my resume.

but i m wondering that even i send out resume now, will they bother to look at my application without a proper local address and contact No?

" ...

No, when you registed it, you will get its updating mail to inform you what new job list they have.

At least, you can have first hand information about how many companies are recuirting your position.

Hope it helps.

作者: gpoint 时间: 27-5-2009 10:07

原帖由 stellahie 于 27-5-2009 00:22 发表

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You will stand a higher chance being physically in AU and able to attend interviews.

Where are you heading to?

So far still hovering between Mel and Bris. (Most probably will to Mel)
How about u?

作者: gpoint 时间: 27-5-2009 10:08

原帖由 liualice004 于 27-5-2009 00:25 发表

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No, when you registed it, you will get its updating mail to inform you what new job list they have.

At least, you can have first hand information about how many companies are recuirting your posi ...

Yeah, it is good to register for notification first.
Thanks 4 ur idea!

作者: stellahie 时间: 27-5-2009 10:14
标题: 回复 #37 gpoint 的帖子
MEL or SYD。I reckon big cities have better opportunities for our kind of jobs. I teach Yoga and hubby is in IT.

作者: gpoint 时间: 27-5-2009 10:31
标题: 回复 #39 stellahie 的帖子
Wah, so nice, next time can learn Yoga from u, remember to give extra discount.

作者: stellahie 时间: 27-5-2009 10:59
标题: 回复 #40 gpoint 的帖子
Can!

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