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作者: melguy 时间: 11-11-2008 09:00
标题: 希望更多中国医生来澳洲实现自己的梦想
你想不想使你的一生更丰富多彩？
高出一般收入数倍的工资，丰厚的福利，宽松的工作环境，简单的人际关系，没有晋升的烦恼，汽车别墅，海外度假，子女的私立教育等等。

You only need to improve your English.
All the resources you need are available online from website in Australia. Like AMC...

But hurry, things may change in the future.
There is still a shortage of doctors aross Australia, but maybe will change in the future.
--most medical schools increase the recruitment, and a couple of new schools have started already.
--the trainning position is not increased in proportion with the increased student number.
--in the light of financial crisis, the furthur funding for medical trainning looks unlikely.
--overseas trained doctors pouring in Australia in recent years.
(most from english speaking background, like UK, India, Sri Lanka...)

The chances still there, but need to be hurry.
Talk about with your friends about this issue, welcome more Chinese Doctors join the Australian Workforce.
The study is hard but the reward is huge, you will secure your whole life with easy and top of the level living standard!!!

[ 本帖最后由 melguy 于 11-11-2008 10:03 编辑 ]

作者: melguy 时间: 15-11-2008 11:30
发此贴的目的是希望看到更多的从大陆来的华人医生。
这里的华人医生多是马来西亚华人和其他东南亚华人的后裔。
最近很多印度和斯里兰卡的医生来这里。他们的英语能力占优势，和英语教育有关。
中国的医学教育并不比其他国家差，主要是英语跟不上。
我知道国内有不少医生的收入不低，但主要是靠红包和其他灰色收入。
而更多的医生的收入一般，和付出的学习不成比例。
为什么不来澳州享受合法的高收入呢？

作者: xhmax 时间: 16-11-2008 00:11
英语不是问题。
但有那么容易找得到工作么？

作者: 阿哈 时间: 16-11-2008 01:36
中医行吗，哈哈

作者: melguy 时间: 16-11-2008 08:33

原帖由 xhmax 于 16-11-2008 01:11 发表

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英语不是问题。
但有那么容易找得到工作么？

So many Indian and Sri Lanka doctors work here.
If your English is not a problem, job is easy to find.

作者: melguy 时间: 16-11-2008 08:35

原帖由阿哈于 16-11-2008 02:36 发表

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中医行吗，哈哈

Chinese medicine is possible but that is not mainstream, and income can not compare with Doctors.

作者: cydzzj 时间: 16-11-2008 17:47
不单单是英文呀,要考过MCQ,要考过临床面试,英文可以最后才考的.工作嘛,倒是能找到的,只要不挑地方.

作者: twotwo 时间: 16-11-2008 18:04
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作者: melguy 时间: 16-11-2008 18:53
可惜，虽然学习辛苦点，但只要投入，坚持下来，早晚都会考过的。一定要有信心。

作者: melguy 时间: 16-11-2008 19:01

原帖由 cydzzj 于 16-11-2008 18:47 发表

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不单单是英文呀,要考过MCQ,要考过临床面试,英文可以最后才考的.工作嘛,倒是能找到的,只要不挑地方.

不考英文的前提是先移民，但从海外拿工作签证必须考英语。

作者: aliku 时间: 2-12-2008 09:41

作者: sun2000 时间: 2-12-2008 18:42
楼主的介绍让人向往，我目前正在通过LG办理技术移民，正发愁自己10几年的专业技术可能不得不放弃了（神经内科专业、硕士学位），自认一直是个认真负责的好医生，英语水平，下点功夫应该没问题。能否请LZ详细介绍一下获得国外行医资格的途径。对我来说如果移民成功，如何获得；如果不能成功移民，如何操作？是否必须要进学校读书？望LZ不吝赐教。谢谢！！

作者: XT 时间: 2-12-2008 22:12
医生赚钱实在太容易了，BULK BILL的病人一个收30，平均五分钟看一个，一天看六十，就是一千八，就算给人打工，拿70%，也是一千两百六。没来澳大利亚时，我还以为中国医生看病最快呢。来了才知道，中国医生致富靠开药，澳大利亚靠人头，都不含糊。

作者: melguy 时间: 7-12-2008 01:33

原帖由 sun2000 于 2-12-2008 19:42 发表

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楼主的介绍让人向往，我目前正在通过LG办理技术移民，正发愁自己10几年的专业技术可能不得不放弃了（神经内科专业、硕士学位），自认一直是个认真负责的好医生，英语水平，下点功夫应该没问题。能否请LZ详细介绍一下 ...

楼上应该走physician的路，专业为Neurologist, hold a Fellowship of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians (FRACP). 持有FRACP的fellowship.
The Australian and New Zealand Association of Neurologists (ANZAN) is the national professional association of neurologists.
给楼上介绍几个相关网站：
http://www.healthdirectory.com.au/
http://www.racp.edu.au/
http://www.anzan.org.au/
http://www.amc.org.au/
http://www.occupationalenglishtest.org/

如移民成功有三条路可走：
1 OET > AMC MCQ > AMC Clinical exam > physician trainee > physician exam(two parts) > ANZAN exam > FANZAN (specialist) overall 8-10 years.
2 Areas of Need (AONs) positions　（多是直接被rural area直接聘用，并接受12个月practice under peer review ）后可不通过college考试一直在该地区工作，但不能换地方。 overall 1 year.
  适合于英语为母语或英语能力相当于母语水平的overseas trained physicians (OTPs)。 http://www.racp.edu.au/index.cfm ... 2D-FD90108AF3AB0CF8
  此路是最快的捷径，但要求相当高，英语能力，和直接找到工作offer.
3 Specialist Registration in Australia
  OET > AMC assessment > RACP assessment > FRACP (specialist, and work anywhere in Australai) overall may take 3-5 years.
  http://www.racp.edu.au/page/beco ... ans-australia#fracp
  此路比较适合楼上，英语必须要好，要把从上学到工作到专业培训的详细文件准备好，才能通过assessment. 也许能免除部分考试。
如不移民有两条路走：
1 上面的第2条
2 OET(china) > AMC MCQ (China) > Work Visa as resident doctor(Australia) > Physician trainee or OTP pathway

[ 本帖最后由 melguy 于 7-12-2008 20:30 编辑 ]

作者: melguy 时间: 7-12-2008 01:41

原帖由 XT 于 2-12-2008 23:12 发表

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医生赚钱实在太容易了，BULK BILL的病人一个收30，平均五分钟看一个，一天看六十，就是一千八，就算给人打工，拿70%，也是一千两百六。没来澳大利亚时，我还以为中国医生看病最快呢。来了才知道，中国医生致富靠开药 ...

Do you think it is easy to get 60 patients everyday for every GP? Not in most of the GP's Clinic.
If you only and always do 5 min for every patient, you might be investigated by authority.
Maybe you are right, I will check with my GP friends, and get back to you.
My friend said it will be very tired to see 60 patients a day and can make mistakes, not recommend.
If a GP see more then 80 patients for 2 days, the GP will be investigated.

[ 本帖最后由 melguy 于 10-12-2008 00:47 编辑 ]

作者: XT 时间: 7-12-2008 21:43

原帖由 melguy 于 7-12-2008 02:41 发表

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Do you think it is easy to get 60 patients everyday for every GP? Not in most of the GP's Clinic.
If you only and always do 5 min for every patient, you might be investigated by authority.

I have visted more than 10 GP in 5 clinic. Seeing is beliving.

作者: Sally_Zoe 时间: 8-12-2008 09:45
发此贴的目的是希望看到更多的从大陆来的华人医生。

好贴! 绝对支持!!
俺身边从国内过来的医生好多啊!! 但是大多数现在都在当注册护士!! 其中已经有好几个通过考试然后直接在本医院成为医生了!! 祝贺他们, 也希望其他的tz努力!!! 努力!!

最痛恨的是, 当有个新来的国内的医生向一位越南裔的护士讨教有关护士问题的时候, 那个越南女人说, 怎么你们中国那么多医生都在这里当护士啊, 我手下就有几个哪!!

希望各位同仁在生活安定下来以后, 一定一定记住再接再厉, 向医生的职位冲刺!! 为华人争光!!

作者: jiang413 时间: 20-12-2008 21:00
真是好帖很少在这个论坛找到医学同仁啊，我是超声医生。和sun2000的情况类似。楼主怎么联系啊，有没有qq之类的可以好好咨询一下啊。非常感谢！

作者: pamccc 时间: 21-12-2008 00:36
标题: 支持！！！
这里的斯里兰卡和印度的医生特多！但医术不敢恭维。本人是领教过他们的医术了。

作者: melguy 时间: 21-12-2008 13:38

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真是好帖很少在这个论坛找到医学同仁啊，我是超声医生。和sun2000的情况类似。楼主怎么联系啊，有没有qq之类的可以好好咨询一下啊。非常感谢！

Hi David,
People doing Ultrosound here called sonographer, they have to finish a 4 year degree course or pass the exam after certain amount of supervised work in hospital. They are not doctors, the report will be reviewed by doctors like cardiologist et al.
Here is the link to monash course: http://www.med.monash.edu.au/bradmedimag/
For the exma, apart from the clinical skills there are many basic science as well.
For the job, you can look through website like careerone, mycareer, seek, or contact hospitals directly.
If they need people, you can just start work and do the exam later. The pay is average.

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作者: zhengwei1984 时间: 21-12-2008 13:42
"You only need to improve your English. "

not only improve your english, but , most impotant thing is to be a moral and trustworthy DOCTOR!

作者: xhmax 时间: 21-12-2008 16:48
sonographer's way is different.

first, you should have your overseas sonographer qualification assessed by the Australian Institute of Radiography.
ielts 7 etc. more info, pls check this: http://www.air.asn.au/html/s02_a ... 3&nav_top_id=61

then, you can lodge your skilled immigration application. in this part, tons of info in freeoz.

gained your pr, find a job as sonographyer or whatever you want to be.

作者: melguy 时间: 21-12-2008 19:33
Thanks Echo.

作者: melguy 时间: 21-12-2008 19:37

原帖由 zhengwei1984 于 21-12-2008 14:42 发表

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"You only need to improve your English. "

not only improve your english, but , most impotant thing is to be a moral and trustworthy DOCTOR!

Can not agree more, I presume that is not an issue.

作者: jiang413 时间: 23-12-2008 20:33
感谢楼主和echo，echo是超声回声啊，你是超声医生吗？
但你们两讲的好像不完全一致啊，据我所知，拿到overseas sonographer qualification是第一步，要不绝对当不了超声医生，连技师都不行。怎么楼主说现在就可以找工作了呢？
我是准备拿到pr（老公是申请人）后先读书，毕业后是否有资格拿资质呢？
疑问挺多的，怎么能和楼主取得进一步联系呢？

作者: melguy 时间: 23-12-2008 22:21
I have known someone start working without pass the exam, but can only work in the specific hospital which gives you the offer.
You English should be good enough to take the work.
The main different is if you are doing the TTE(transthoracic echo), you should follow the protocol to do a detailed exam for every patient, normally takes 30-40min in an experienced hand.
1, Left parasternal window - Long axis(LA, LV, MV, AV, RV, AA), short axis(AV, PV, TV, MV, apex), RVIT, RVOT.
2, Apical window - A4Ch, A5Ch, A2Ch
Do deatiled chamber evaluation, doppler, 2D, color doppler, systolic and diastolic function.
Not like China, 10 minute one patient.

作者: xhmax 时间: 24-12-2008 00:53
I am not the sonographer, but the physician, and trying hard to find my way out.

just coincidently, my name is Echo.

for finding jobs etc, sorry, I known little.

作者: yisheng_honger 时间: 24-12-2008 12:06
提示: 作者被禁止或删除, 无法发言 到了澳洲再做打算吧
现在怎么想象都不能描绘出真实的澳洲生活

我接受的建议是：
1  做为副申请人，先学习510小时的英语课程
  逐步的认识社会，让英语融入自己的生活，也让自己融入澳洲的生活。
2  然后学习老年护理专业，拿到执照可以到老人院工作糊口（我本身是工作十年的护士，本科学历）
3  选择合适的护理专业学习一年或者是两年，拿到执照就可以拥有稳定的工作了。

医生的学习应该会更辛苦一些吧，因为好的前景必定会有更多的付出，在论坛中经常会看到人说药学有多么的难。医生也会是这样，而且学费一定很高。不能说有毅力有信心就一定能办成所有的事情的。

作者: melguy 时间: 26-12-2008 14:10
1. Study English, and pass OET.
2. Bridging course 6 month.
3. Div 1 nurse in OZ.
Easy

作者: yiyangmama 时间: 26-12-2008 16:34
开中药房需要什么资格呢？也要学相关药剂方面的知识吗？

作者: melguy 时间: 26-12-2008 19:33
http://www.cmrb.vic.gov.au/
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/pracreg/chinese.htm
There are approved courses, also has exams for people had non-approved courses.
This information only apply to Victoria, other states may have different policy.

作者: jiang413 时间: 29-12-2008 13:38
澳洲的超声医生分腹部超声和心脏超声吗？国内大医院是分的很细的，不知那里怎样？另外澳洲的心电图是医生做还是护士做？医院有专门的心电图室吗？

作者: nathan0000 时间: 30-12-2008 17:10
在国内学儿科，在澳洲能考GP吗，谢谢

作者: miney1979 时间: 31-12-2008 03:49
上来冒个泡，来monash图书馆，你会发现许多中国医生的

大家有空可以过来group study.不过现在clinical考试排期都在1年半左右。一切顺利拿到registration也要2年半左右

作者: tintin1976 时间: 31-12-2008 08:19
我姑父是香港移民，独立开业牙医。
按说在医生里面属于高收入低风险。
我看他很辛苦的，每天工作到11点，一星期6天。
当然收入高自然不在话下。

作者: MacroJ 时间: 31-12-2008 08:27
呵呵，多点医生来好～～把收费降下来，哈哈

作者: melguy 时间: 31-12-2008 09:20

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澳洲的超声医生分腹部超声和心脏超声吗？国内大医院是分的很细的，不知那里怎样？另外澳洲的心电图是医生做还是护士做？医院有专门的心电图室吗？

TTE normally done by Sonographer in Cardiology Dep. the report will be reviewed by Cardiologist. Some ICU doctors can do TTE as well.
Abdo Echo done by Sonographer, but ED doctors can do it.
TOE normally done by anaesthetist, cardiologist should be able to do it.
ECG done by nurses, result will be reviewed by doctors.
ECG's are everywhere in hospital, ED, ICU, Theatre, Wards, Outpatient...
Also AED Defibrillator are available everywhere in hospitals.

作者: melguy 时间: 31-12-2008 09:21

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在国内学儿科，在澳洲能考GP吗，谢谢

Why not try to be a paediatrician, you can be a GP if you like.

作者: melguy 时间: 31-12-2008 09:23

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我姑父是香港移民，独立开业牙医。
按说在医生里面属于高收入低风险。
我看他很辛苦的，每天工作到11点，一星期6天。
当然收入高自然不在话下。

Works too hard, if he starts at 9am, that will be 84 hours per week, crazy.

作者: melguy 时间: 31-12-2008 09:25

原帖由 MacroJ 于 31-12-2008 09:27 发表

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呵呵，多点医生来好～～把收费降下来，哈哈

I am afraid the price will going up instead of going down.

作者: 澳洲桉树 时间: 31-12-2008 09:53
I am afraid more and more operations will be offshored to India and China in the future.

作者: 暮然回首 时间: 2-1-2009 14:24
貌似现在很缺医生

作者: melguy 时间: 2-1-2009 19:32
特别是在大城市以外。

作者: penny@giles 时间: 3-1-2009 09:40

原帖由 澳洲桉树 于 31-12-2008 10:53 发表

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I am afraid more and more operations will be offshored to India and China in the future.

恐怖

作者: 玉融 时间: 4-1-2009 13:52
Div 1 nurse in OZ是什么？
国内注册护士，亚斯过不了，所以不能读本科，现在澳，该学习什么短期证书，然后争取什么类别签证可以留在澳呢？

作者: melguy 时间: 4-1-2009 16:58
You have to pass OET, at least B or above in all four subtests if you can not pass the IELTs test.
If you are in Victoria, you need to contact Nurses Board of Victoria,
look for Pre-Registration and Initial Registration Courses for Overseas Qualified Nurses

作者: jiang413 时间: 5-1-2009 00:16
感谢楼主告诉了我很多心脏超声的工作，我还是很想知道些腹部超声（包括肝胆胰脾双肾、乳腺、甲状腺等小器官、血管超声和妇科、产科的超声）方面的情况。感谢了！

作者: melguy 时间: 5-1-2009 13:53
Not sure what do you want to know, if you want to be a doctor, sonographer not suits you.
Abdominal ultrasound all done by sonographers inside hospitals or in some diagnostic clinic.

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作者: enshi-christian 时间: 15-2-2009 23:43
标题: 如何查找澳洲的医学院校？
我想先联系POST DOC 出来，可是发现在网上找美国的医学院通过查排名就可以找到，而澳洲找不到医学院的索引或名单，你有这方面的消息吗？谢谢！
还有，是在国内考试好呢？还是过来边做POST DOC 边准备考试好？

作者: yoyo311 时间: 16-2-2009 16:24
帮我看看我应该怎样做
我在国内是中医硕士毕业,和神经有关,但毕业课题和康复有关,现在在学校教书.
听说毕业要4年,然后还要4年才能从事临床工作,所以现在想先读一个康复技师,找到工作然后再转医师.大家看这样行不行,另外,康复医师及技师的工作好不好找?
我的英语一般，是不是要从本科开始读？

作者: 秋水明洁 时间: 16-2-2009 19:12
好贴，MARK

作者: xuexue84512591 时间: 16-2-2009 20:50
顶一下，真是好贴，给了我们信心和希望

作者: yoyo311 时间: 17-2-2009 18:17
了解一下,医学要读四年,而且学费相当高人民币大概要15万/年,
我在国内学的是中医硕士,以神经康复为主.因为学费比较高所以还是想先读一个康复技师的工作.不知道有i没有朋友了解康复技师是做什么工作的,请问一下,像我这种情况康复技师,应该读什么,也是本科吗
亚斯需要多少,读的时间长短,工作是否好找.之后如何继续考康复医师(学习年限等). 有了康复技师文凭是否可以减免课程.对了我是pr

作者: melguy 时间: 19-2-2009 23:02

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我想先联系POST DOC 出来，可是发现在网上找美国的医学院通过查排名就可以找到，而澳洲找不到医学院的索引或名单，你有这方面的消息吗？谢谢！
还有，是在国内考试好呢？还是过来边做POST DOC 边准备考试好？

Just gooooogle it. Most of them located in Major cities,
Melbourne - Royal Melbourne Uni, Monash Uni
Sydney - Uni of Sydney, Uni of Western Sydney
...
Follow the link below:
http://www.australian-universities.com/schools/medical/

作者: melguy 时间: 19-2-2009 23:07

原帖由 yoyo311 于 16-2-2009 17:24 发表

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帮我看看我应该怎样做
我在国内是中医硕士毕业,和神经有关,但毕业课题和康复有关,现在在学校教书.
听说毕业要4年,然后还要4年才能从事临床工作,所以现在想先读一个康复技师,找到工作然后再转医师.大家看这样行不行 ...

You have to finish medical school first, not Chinese traditional medicine, that is different.

作者: melguy 时间: 19-2-2009 23:11

原帖由 yoyo311 于 17-2-2009 19:17 发表

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了解一下,医学要读四年,而且学费相当高人民币大概要15万/年,
我在国内学的是中医硕士,以神经康复为主.因为学费比较高所以还是想先读一个康复技师的工作.不知道有i没有朋友了解康复技师是做什么工作的,请问一下,像我 ...

You can study physiotherapy, many unis have the course.

作者: JENNY.P 时间: 19-2-2009 23:58

作者: yoyo311 时间: 20-2-2009 11:19
那么,如果读完了医学的课程,实习的时候是否是带工资的?如果带，大概有多少呢?
什么样的specialist容易找得到training的地方?

作者: yoyo311 时间: 20-2-2009 11:22
谢谢melguy!
那么physiotherapy的薪水是不是比gp少很多呀？

作者: yoyo311 时间: 20-2-2009 11:43
从MCQ开始，当上GP需要5-7年，Specialist8-10年。
楼主是说从finish medical school 开始算起吗。我记得好像是从上学开始一共是那么长时间呀?
如果从念完medical school算，岂不要至少10年？

作者: melguy 时间: 20-2-2009 15:22
58#  All medical intern get paid once they start the work,  the pay is around $45-50k per year.
59#  Much less then Gp, maybe around 800-1000 per week.
60#  This is from the finish of medical school,  only the medical school will take 6 years.

作者: yoyo311 时间: 21-2-2009 17:29
康复医学和理疗师应该不一样吧。都好找工作吗？康复医师的薪水又怎样呢？

作者: yoyo311 时间: 21-2-2009 17:33
我听说要想进入medical school 学习，要参加入学考试（umat）？还要进行面试？
真不知道像我这样的能不能读医学，不过真的很感谢melguy,thanks a lot!!!!

作者: yoyo311 时间: 21-2-2009 21:05
请问楼主,finish of medical school之后,必须先mcq和eot才能开始进入实习吗？从finish of medical school到实习这期间要多长时间？
先生说读medicine的时间太长了，他不能供我那么长时间，还有孩子。所以想知道从开始读medical school 到开始赚到实习的薪水需要多久。
另外，康复医师也可以独立开业吗？
现在是还不知道要考哪方面的，希望能早点定下来。
楼主回答了我的好多问题，多谢，论坛里有你这样的筒子真好，使我们这些想学医的好多的希望。

作者: melguy 时间: 21-2-2009 21:09

原帖由 yoyo311 于 21-2-2009 18:29 发表

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康复医学和理疗师应该不一样吧。都好找工作吗？康复医师的薪水又怎样呢？

Australasian Faculty of Rehabilitation Medicine (AFRM)
A Faculty of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians (RACP)
A specialty of physician. As a physician the full-timer should be well above 200K.

作者: yoyo311 时间: 22-2-2009 10:03
楼主你在线呀,能不能回答一下63#,64#的问题.我现在急需知道,像我这样的pr进入medical school 学习需要什么样的要求。
另外还有从finish of medical school到实习这期间要多长时间？我想知道什么时候才可以领到薪水？
thanks!

作者: melguy 时间: 22-2-2009 12:37
63#  Yes, you have to pass the  exam to study medicine and also have to pass the interview as well.
      You might need a year to prepare the exam, the interview is hard as I heard. You need excellent English and confidence to pass the
      interview.
64#  Once you finish the medical school, you will get paid for the internship, around 45K for the start, but generally may get more as overtime is
      often for junior doctors.
Rehab doc is a specialist, you may get clinic but generally they work in different places.

作者: bluepenguin 时间: 22-2-2009 19:51
Hi LZ, I finished PHD in molecular biology in Dec last year. Recenly I haver started working on MCQ. I have passed IELTS . My background was two years Resident training in General surgery in China but away from clinical practice for 11 years already. I would really appreciate some advice from you for my situation. Thanks a lot.

作者: melguy 时间: 22-2-2009 20:55
Hi bluepenguin, most welcome, you are heading the right direction this time.
Your two years resident training will not help a lot to go back to the surgical training in oz.
If you really want to be a doc, you will need MCQ to start your HMO work in any hospitals, then you need to pass the clinical exam from AMC.
After you done that, there are two ways, one is going to GP training the other is go to specialist training.
GP training is relatively easy, only 3 years and easy to apply as well.
Specialist is relatively hard, depends on which specialty you want to do.
Surgical training is generally hard to get in, particular some surgical specialty like ophthalmology, ENT, plastic, neuro, cardio-thoracic, vascular, urology, O&G, et al.

作者: yoyo311 时间: 23-2-2009 12:46
看了楼主的回复,又重新研究了一下.
university of sydney 有一个专业 rehabilitation counselling 4years.不知道这个专业pr 入学是不是也有exam,interview.finish the school后是否,也有oet,ielts和临床的考试，还是直接就可以工作了。pr的学费和citizen 一样吗？thanks!

作者: melguy 时间: 23-2-2009 17:37
That course is not a medical course, maybe a lot easier to get in. You will be a counseller after finish it.
You can not be a doctor after you finish that course, therefor oet, mcq and clinical exams are not applicable.
Not sure how difference between PR and citizen in terms of the cost, but should not be too much.

作者: 中国人 时间: 26-2-2009 11:50
标题: thanks
thanks

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作者: cheng2 时间: 5-3-2009 18:41
请问楼主,国内在医院检验科工作10年,想移民,但不知澳洲的检验科工作好找吗?要不要再去参加考试?他们的检验科工作人员是什么专业教育背景?学些什么课程?谢谢

作者: melguy 时间: 5-3-2009 21:14
If your English is good enough, you can apply for the work directly.
You may need to pass the exam to get the licence to work anywhere in Australia.
Pathology can be in public hospitals or private pathology companies like healthscope, Dorevitch, et al.
They normally need bachelor of medical science to be qualified to work in path lab.
Not sure what course they have to learn. You can google it.

作者: cheng2 时间: 6-3-2009 07:44
非常感谢,
假若参加考试获取licence,是哪个部门组织,能否给个网站.谢谢

作者: melguy 时间: 6-3-2009 11:11
I had a chat with the medical scientist in our hospital a moment ago.
He said the graduate certificate from China will not be recognised here in OZ.
But there is a course called Laboratory Medicine in RMIT, once you finished the course then you get a certificate to be eligible to work in any medical labs in Australia.
There is only one uni in each state offering this course, RMIT is the only one in Victoria.
You can either take the bachelor course or the master course from RMIT, the link is as follows

http://www.rmit.edu.au/programs/bp147

The job market for this specialty is tight espically in public section, more places available in private section but the pay is generally less then the public area, anyway, get involve in is more important then the pay.
Feel free to ask any questions. Cheers.

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作者: 沉沉 时间: 6-3-2009 11:22
好话题。　ＵＰＵＰＵＰ

作者: cariJiang 时间: 6-3-2009 23:52
支持啊！！！！！！！！！！！

作者: haiyan 时间: 31-3-2009 20:12
支持..希望更多学医疗的来

作者: sensen 时间: 6-4-2009 12:43
I would like to know,if i just got my diploma in china for clinic medical .and then i got mast degree in clinic medical in china. can I sitting in mcq test?or oet test?

I already get in bachlor of nursing course. but i don't like it ,take this course just for life.

you know,I willing study hard or work hand,just want to be a doctor here.Can you answer my question?

作者: fgyzj 时间: 6-4-2009 16:43

原帖由 sensen 于 6-4-2009 12:43 发表

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I would like to know,if i just got my diploma in china for clinic medical .and then i got mast degree in clinic medical in china. can I sitting in mcq test?or oet test?
I already get in bachlor ...

NO! You can't. AMC ask you a Bachelor Degree of Medicine.

作者: newland 时间: 6-4-2009 16:56
有灰色有收入有什么不好?

作者: JENNY.P 时间: 6-4-2009 21:30

作者: melguy 时间: 6-4-2009 22:48
I can understand how you feel, if you are a medical graduate in China, I can not see any reason why you can not sit the AMC exams.
Feel free to contact me via SM.

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I would like to know,if i just got my diploma in china for clinic medical .and then i got mast degree in clinic medical in china. can I sitting in mcq test?or oet test?
I already get in bachlor ...

作者: melguy 时间: 6-4-2009 22:53
有的东西钱买不来，比如尊严。还有自由。
Sorry, I am a bit fussy.

原帖由 newland 于 6-4-2009 16:56 发表

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有灰色有收入有什么不好?

作者: 见素抱朴 时间: 14-4-2009 01:04
标题: 如何准备UMAT的考试
如何准备UMAT的考试，LZ有什么建议吗？谢谢。

作者: melguy 时间: 14-4-2009 10:31
All I heard is no matter how good your written exam is, the interview is a killer for most of the candidate.
They ask many questions, some simple questions are pretty hard to answer, like why do you want to study medicine? If they find any dishonest answer, fail immediately. Your English level should be excellent, communication skill is crucial.

作者: alexnice 时间: 15-4-2009 00:07
都是医生啊？
我是想读机械设备之类的工程师学位，我现在从事的也是这份工作，怎么办啊？

作者: nathan0000 时间: 17-4-2009 07:57
下决心要考MCQ，我住在墨尔本Glen Waverley，楼主能推荐些考医生的团体吗?多谢了！

作者: melguy 时间: 17-4-2009 17:06
Good on you, sorry but I do not know any group around here.
Someone said there are people doing study at Monash Library(medical).

作者: laolaoren 时间: 17-4-2009 17:45

原帖由 见素抱朴 于 14-4-2009 01:04 发表

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如何准备UMAT的考试，LZ有什么建议吗？谢谢。

UMAT is an exam similar to IQ tests with lots of general knowledges in anykind of areas: history, literratures, sciences, plus problems solving is tough one. The exam is timing restricted. You have to be Quick reading and Quick responses. My daughter had this exam. It is really hard to
Non native English speakers to take that.

作者: melguy 时间: 17-4-2009 20:12
Thanks for the message.

作者: 王春雷 时间: 21-4-2009 01:38
标题: 非常希望得到回复
我想请教，在OZ Sonographer 是在医院还是在研究所工作？收入大致多少，区别大吗？
国内超声医生有十年经验，雅思达到7 ，在澳找到Offer 就能去工作吗？（赚点银子回国花

）
还是得按移民程序职业评估-等过程，才能行？

:
另澳洲是落地签吗？

十分希望得到回复，多谢!

作者: melguy 时间: 21-4-2009 23:55
在医院工作，收入大致5万-7万，取决于工作时间的长短和有没有加班。
如果你的英语好，可尝试直接找工作，有的医院缺人，可能给工作签证。
有专门的考试，如果不参加考试，可能只能在应聘的医院工作。
考过试后可以在任何地方申请工作。

作者: 王春雷 时间: 22-4-2009 00:17
标题: 多谢回复，
问一下是5万--7万人民币元吗？

作者: 王春雷 时间: 22-4-2009 02:07
标题: 顶一下
Obviously ,no. 是澳元---刀（自己回答

）

非常高兴能看到这个帖子，尤其谢谢楼主的回复。
希望以后能问到不很菜的问题。汗哪。

作者: 独立小桥风满袖 时间: 22-4-2009 10:00

作者: 王春雷 时间: 23-4-2009 02:31
标题: 请教：
Ultrasound qualifications will only be considered at a postgraduate level with an appropriate undergraduate qualification in an associated Health Science - Radiography, Biomedical Science and Nursing etc. in short a course that has anatomy and related subjects in it.
这是评估网站的原文，我是临床医学本科，主治医师，没有研究生学历，那是不是不行呢？
尤其请楼主帮忙。

作者: 王春雷 时间: 23-4-2009 02:51
标题: 又请教：
Unconditional Recognition.
Qualifications gained outside Australia will be recognised as equivalent to the Australian standard at the time of qualification and the post qualification experience is also of an acceptable standard. A Statement of Accreditation will be granted and a letter for use in the immigration process issued. In the case of Medical Ultrasound a Certificate of Recognition in Ultrasound will be granted and a letter for use in the immigration process issued.

就是说我的超声医学中级职称，彩超上岗证等可以用上，嘿嘿，对吗？或者 A letter ,,,
(请说我是故意顶这个帖子吧！我最近才研究这个，呵呵)

作者: melguy 时间: 23-4-2009 07:24
98#
Postgraduate level is not master degree, just mean you finish the uni and through some training.
99#
Seems you have done some work, but not that easy, you can try, you need many paper work to back up your application. And the echo work in Oz is slight different compare with in China.
Why not consider to be a Doc if you are a medical graduate??

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