标题: 坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ [打印本页] 作者: 西皮二黄 时间: 24-8-2006 11:56 标题: 坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 我坚决不支持封掉Mars的ID,理由如下：<br>
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1.此人在炎炎的夏日里，给我们带来很多快乐！--相信很多筒子都很关注此人的帖子，使我们忘记了炎热，忘记了很多烦恼，忘记了还有很多烦人的工作要做，忘记了官僚的头头脑脑们在耳边唠唠叨叨...<br><br>
2.此人让我们知道了上海的包容性！--筒子里上海人很多，在上海生活工作过的人也很多，试问各位，你曾经在上海见过类似的人吗？所以，此人让我们知道了大上海无所不能，包容巨大~~<br>
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3.此人让我们很好的探讨了亲情，金钱的关系！--亲情，高薪，地位，相信很多筒子都会在这些问题上遇到烦恼，借助此人的一些帖子，让广大筒子们很好的探讨，交流了各自的感想，这在平时是很少能做到的<br>
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4.此人对大家的警示作用巨大无比！--若干年后，或许你能听到人们这样骂自己的孩子们：“莫非你也想像当年FreeOZ里面的Mars一样XXXXXX吗？”<br>
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5.这地方叫啥？FreeOZ，既然Free了，就应该允许人们自由发言嘛，百花齐放才是春，当然类似于六月四日那样的事情还是别提了，为了方便国内的筒子们一直能访问这个论坛，敏感话题还是算了吧！<br>
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暂时想到了这五条，再想起来，随时补充！作者: chubbycat 时间: 24-8-2006 11:59 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ ok sounds resonable作者: mite 时间: 24-8-2006 11:59 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ <img src="../leadbbsfile/UBBicon/em06.GIF" align=absmiddle border=0><br>
<img src="../leadbbsfile/UBBicon/em02.GIF" align=absmiddle border=0>作者: chubbycat 时间: 24-8-2006 12:17 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 6. 此人让我们很好的灌水.作者: fredjf 时间: 24-8-2006 13:24 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 强烈支持楼主的意见！！！！<br>
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我认为不但不能封，还要加分！！Mars对近期论坛的繁荣作出了不可磨灭的贡献！试问，近期还有哪个帖子让无数潜水的TZ仍不住浮上来勇敢地灌水。作者: 西皮二黄 时间: 24-8-2006 13:25 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 5楼的，不好意思问一下，TZ是啥意思呢？作者: 心如止水 时间: 24-8-2006 13:50 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 应该不鼓励，但是也不能提倡，否则会有成千上万的个位了加分而涌现出来的“Mars”作者: micfox 时间: 24-8-2006 15:27 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ Wow!!! I cannot expect what I predict is coming earlier!!! Check my following link:<br>
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Hehe.. Lz is not board Master so he did not have the priviledge to do so.. But there have been so many people jumping out from nowhere to stress the point about 言论自由 already.. (BTW, can I get some extra 魅力 for giving such precise prediction???)作者: 西皮二黄 时间: 24-8-2006 16:14 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 7.通过看Mars筒子的帖子，可以让我们更好的扪心自问，看看别人想想自己。不光批评别人，更要勇于自我批评！~ 健康身心<br>
<br> 作者: tjsh 时间: 24-8-2006 16:47 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 要言论自由，更要学会包容！<br>
不要通过攻击MARS来显示自己道德有多高尚，进而把自己划入正常人的行列！<br> 作者: micfox 时间: 24-8-2006 17:17 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 不要通过攻击MARS来显示自己道德有多高尚，进而把自己划入正常人的行列！<br>
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Hehe.. Technically I hate to use the word "Moral"(道德).. Because everyone has different standard and there is no point to force some one's standard onto others.. But mr. Mars is not a good person for sure and he even attempted to get PR using fake marriage (I think he might have succeeded already and the evidence is below.. of course Mars has deleted this post already), which is zero-tolerance in freeoz because he breaks the law and law standard is not up to him!!!<br>
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上海，雅思考砸了。需要配偶加5分，谁能找个能通过评估的女孩，准备去澳的，结婚，赴澳后马上离。 <br> 作者: 我爱DAVIDH 时间: 24-8-2006 17:20 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 同意楼主,不过现在是寒冷的冬天,嘿嘿作者: 阿董 时间: 24-8-2006 18:20 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 很有道理！支持楼主！作者: hueofwind 时间: 24-8-2006 19:59 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 人家Mars又没有干什么违法乱纪的事情，要封人家帖子，至于吗？作者: micfox 时间: 24-8-2006 22:13 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 人家Mars又没有干什么违法乱纪的事情，要封人家帖子，至于吗？<br>
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Ok.. then what is the following thing in Mars' post? I have said it in my board that whoever wants to use fake material to get PR will be banned and I would keep my promise, so be it!!! (Mars knows I am not joking on this so he has deleted the following post and never has the gut to play the same trick in my board!!!)<br>
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上海，雅思考砸了。需要配偶加5分，谁能找个能通过评估的女孩，准备去澳的，结婚，赴澳后马上离。 <br> 作者: zebra 时间: 24-8-2006 22:35 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 支持美国的立国之道：言论自由！<br>
支持不封ID！<br>
<br> 作者: raymin 时间: 24-8-2006 23:04 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 那是一面很好的镜子呀！<br>
有空就擦擦，多好啊！作者: thewall 时间: 25-8-2006 01:10 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 。。。 此人让我第一次破口大骂，第一次，可能也是最后一次 。。。作者: 0C 时间: 25-8-2006 01:19 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 支持不封，捍卫Mars说话的权利。。作者: clickle 时间: 25-8-2006 01:31 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ LZ有当年老毛的风范阿，只是这样教条的说法（反面教材，百花齐放）时间长不了，遗臭万年阿作者: 希曼 时间: 25-8-2006 02:32 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 不支持封。。。捍卫他说话的权力，尽管鄙视他的一些看法作者: pal2002 时间: 25-8-2006 02:42 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 不多说，有两句名句：<br>
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我可以不喜欢他的话，我可以希望他不说话，但我不希望禁止他说话作者: 毛桩桩 时间: 25-8-2006 12:01 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 我不同意你说的话，但我誓死捍卫你说话的权力<br>
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哈哈作者: micfox 时间: 25-8-2006 12:29 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 我不同意你说的话，但我誓死捍卫你说话的权力<br>
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I am not sure if the following statement is also right:<br><br>
The law does not agree with what you did (what you did is breaking the law), but the law will protect the right you did it at all cost???<br>
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The Chinese version should be something like: <br>
法纪不同意 what you did, 但法纪誓死捍卫你的权力 for doing it!!!<br>
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if 我不同意你说的话，但我誓死捍卫你说话的权力 were right, then the above statement should also be right!!!(if you do not think so, please give out your justification!!) Then all the prisoners in jail should be released due to the above statement!!!<br>
<br> 作者: 张小麦 时间: 25-8-2006 14:05 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 支持楼主一下，<br> 作者: Mars 时间: 25-8-2006 14:43 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 人家Mars又没有干什么违法乱纪的事情，要封人家帖子，至于吗？<br>
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Ok.. then what is the following thing in Mars' post? I have said it in my board that whoever wants to use fake material to get PR will be banned and I would keep my promise, so be it!!! (Mars knows I am not joking on this so he has deleted the following post and never has the gut to play the same trick in my board!!!)<br>
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上海，雅思考砸了。需要配偶加5分，谁能找个能通过评估的女孩，准备去澳的，结婚，赴澳后马上离。 <br><br>如果你觉得这个贴子有问题，那当时就应当提出封．<br>
为何现在时隔两年才提出？<br><br><br> 作者: gemei 时间: 25-8-2006 15:05 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 嘿嘿嘿。作者: kingsking 时间: 25-8-2006 15:23 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ ddd作者: clickle 时间: 25-8-2006 15:57 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ "我奉劝禁遏言论、思想自由的注意，要利用言论自由来破坏危险思想，不要借口危险思想来禁止言论自由"<br>
我党早期干部李大钊的名言啊，解铃还须系铃人，此公逻辑学得不错。逼到大家都说这种话，难道我们还生活在李所在时代？我怀疑这些话的存在前提<br>
<br> 作者: 找人钓鱼 时间: 25-8-2006 17:00 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 谁封他，我和谁急。奶奶的作者: micfox 时间: 25-8-2006 17:03 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 如果你觉得这个贴子有问题，那当时就应当提出封．<br>
为何现在时隔两年才提出？<br>
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Please check my registration date on freeoz and you will know why!!!<br>
(BTW, if I were board master at that time, you would not even have chance to get popular now as long as you admit you use fake marriage to get PR!!!)作者: micfox 时间: 25-8-2006 17:16 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 这年头结婚动机不纯的多了去了，有为分房的，有为找长期饭票的，有为传宗接代的，也有为出国的。有必要反应那么大吗？<br>
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Yes, there are a lot of prisoners in jail who do not have any freedom to go, why not join them?这年头的 the people who break the law and go to prison 多了去了, why do you not break the law and go to prison as well??<br>
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I am not talking about deception on his spouse.. I am talking about the deception on DIMIA and harming of the credibility of Chinese!!!!<br>
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比很多人结婚前不说，婚后拿到身份后再提出离婚，顺便分点对方的财产要光明累落啊。<br>
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Hehe.. I know why the society in China is so bad now, because few people know what "obeying the law" is!!! Again, 多了去了 is not a sound reason for you to break the law, if so, then what is the reason for legislation?? The rappist has the freedom to rape someone, the murderer has his right to kill someone and the corruption official has the priviledge to deceive the government!!! There are heaps of 多了去了, why do you not follow them??? The police should be dismissed because once you arrested these people, they can always say the police deprive them of their rights to do it and 多了去了!!!<br>
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人家克林顿夫妇还不是为了政治而走到一起的吗？有哪一条法律规定男女非相爱而结婚违法啊？<br>
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No, 男女非相爱而结婚 is not illegal, but please see what Mars said: he is using the fake marriage <b>to get PR</b>, then it is illegal!!! I hope you understand Bill Clington did not get the US presidency because he got married!!! <br>
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OK, That is my last comments on this, I do not want to waste the time giving you some lecture about how important "obeying the law" is, because I think it is the responsibility of your teachers in high school and your parents!!作者: micfox 时间: 25-8-2006 17:26 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 我奉劝禁遏言论、思想自由的注意，要利用言论自由来破坏危险思想，不要借口危险思想来禁止言论自由"<br>
我党早期干部李大钊的名言啊，解铃还须系铃人，此公逻辑学得不错。逼到大家都说这种话，难道我们还生活在李所在时代？我怀疑这些话的存在前提<br>
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Hehe.. as you say, why do we still need the legislation against Act of Libel??? Everyone can slander others without taking any responsibility if 言论自由 is raping the law!!!作者: micfox 时间: 25-8-2006 17:36 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 支持美国的立国之道：言论自由！<br>
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I hope you understand two points:<br>
1. you are not Yankee so 美国的立国之道 is not for you!!!<br>
2. 美国的立国之道 is not 言论自由, it is everything should follow the law!!<br><br> 作者: tuwh 时间: 25-8-2006 18:17 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 不要再在生活版块讨论不相干的事务，OK？<br>
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转。。。作者: micfox 时间: 29-8-2006 19:54 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ 我承认大家都要遵纪守法，我也鄙视很多国人不遵守法律的行为，比如乘车逃票，移民学历作假。<br>
但我不认为两个人合作结婚移民是违法，只要没有金钱关系。因为只要没有付钱的话，大家互相帮忙，法律上根本无法根据结婚动机来定义这种婚姻是否假结婚。<br>
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I am tried of telling the simple principle behind this already!! Check the top-up post in my board<br>
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(PS: this comment is not even originated by me but someone else who really understands the actual problem and I made my promise to ban people who use fake material to get PR as reply in this post!!!)<br>
<br>maybe the condition that having sex is needed to taped to prove the marriage from China in PR application is what you are looking forward to or you are glad to be taped!!!<br>
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One more word, I admitted my behaviour might be a little bit emotional but at least I kept my promise and behave like what I said.. But I really hate to see most people here being sicophant: On one hand, they said they hate the people who provide the fake material, On the other hand, they said it is OK to use fake material!! (it is really disgusting and makes me sick!!!!)作者: 鹰扬天下 时间: 27-1-2007 19:18 标题: Re:坚决反对封掉Mars的ID,理由如下！ <P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible9105469494'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/03.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/03.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap onclick='document.Audible9105469494.Play()'>年轻人，做人要厚道！</td></tr></table></p>