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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 09:51
标题: 【读书笔记】Hacking Growth by Sean Ellis


来自布村的Summer来报到，这是受Cherry，蜻蜓，Anna等等亲爱的们的鼓励来发表的第一篇读书笔记。新鲜出炉。因为这是我第一次把我的笔记拿出来晒，希望大家多多指正。


Hacking Growth这本书是17年出版的，作者在这方面非常有建树与思考深度，总结出来的方法论都是可以马上实践在工作中的。这是一本可以带来，公司架构与产品迭代的思考与实践的书籍。希望感兴趣的朋友可以跟我一起讨论，我对增长非常感兴趣。

About the Author

Sean Ellis is CEO and founder of GrowthHackers.com, the number one online community for GrowthHackers with 1.8 million global users. Sean coined the term "growth hacker" in 2010 and is the producer of the GrowthHackers Conference.

Prior to GrowthHackers, Sean founded and sold customer insights company Qualaroo, growing it to millions of dollars in recurring revenue with customers such as Starbucks, Amazon and Intuit. He has also led growth or marketing for Dropbox, Eventbrite, LogMeIn (IPO), Uproar (IPO) and Lookout.

Summary

The Method

Building Growth Teams


At the core of today’s fastest growing companies is a new business unit called the Growth Team. This cross-functional team is made up of specialists from across the organization that come together to design and test new experiments that can lead to big growth wins.

Managed by the Growth Lead, the team meets weekly and moves quickly through a prioritized queue of ideas that have the potential to improve business results throughout the customer lifecycle; from acquisition and activation, to retention and revenue.

The team is comprised of builders and doers from software development, product management, data analytics, design and marketing to collaborate on innovative and incremental experiments that can move the metrics that matter most to the business.

                               
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- The growth lead: choosing the core focus area and objectives.
- Product manager: overseeing how the product and its various features are brought to life; assisting hacking missions of breaking down the silos between departments and identifying good candidates in engineering and marketing to help start the growth team.
  "A good product manager is the CEO of the product"
- Software engineers
- Marketing specialists
- Data analysts: understanding how to collect, organize, and then perform sophisticated analysis on customer data to gain insights that lead to ideas for experiments.
- Product designers

Growth hacking process
Analyze -> Ideate -> Prioritize -> Test -> Analyze

Reporting structure

                               
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Determining If Your Product Is Must-have
What's the aha moment?
Whether a company has just been founded and is in the start-up phase trying to figure out its place in the market and the true value of its product or service for potential customers, or whether a company is an established market player acting in a highly dynamic and competitive surrounding that is driven by constant innovation and new product releases: there is a constant need to re-evaluate a company’s product-market-fit to ensure ongoing business growth.

Case: Yelp (They found the aha moment for users is about reviewing restaurants.)


The must-have survey:
Question:
How disappointed would you be if this product no longer existed tomorrow?

• Very disappointed
• Somewhat disappointed
• Not disappointed
• N/A - I no longer use it
  

If 40 percent or more of responses are 'very disappointed' then the product has achieved sufficient must-have status.
If 25-40 percent, then often what's needed are tweaks either to the product ro to the language used to describe the product and how to use it.
If less than 25 percent, it's likely that either the audience you've attracted is the wrong fit or the product needs more substantial development before it's ready for a growth push.

In these cases, more questions:


- What would you likely use as an alternative to [product name] if it were no longer available?

• I probably wouldn't use an alternative
• I would use:
  

- What is the primary beneft that you have received from [product name]?
- How likely is it that you would recommend [product name] to a friend or a colleague?
- What type of person do you think would benefit most from [product name]?
- How can we improve [product name] to better meet your needs?


Assess the product’s retention rate
Tracking the no. of users who churn (weekly/monthly basis). Shorter time horizon helps deduce how many users are making the use of the product a habit.


Getting to must-have
Three key methods:

• Additional customer surveying, including interviews and getting out in the marketplace to taok to customers and prospective customers;
• Efficient experimental testing of product changes and messaging;
• A deep plunge into analysis of your user data.
  

Specifically:

• Watch users' actions: actions speak louder than words
• Finding a community to survey: case: PayPal with eBay
• Efficient experimentation: MVT (minimum viable test) - Decisions about what experiments to run must be made rigorously
• A/B testing
• Taking a data dive
• What are active users doing
  

Identifying Your Growth Levers


Focus on the right levers of growth at the right time. Be rigorously scientific in identifying the kind of growth you need and the levers that will drive it.

Understand which metrics matter most for your product’s growth. Develop your ‘fundamental growth equation’. To find out essential metrics, identify the actions that correlate most directly to users experiencing the core value of your product. E.g. Uber—essential metric, no. of rides completed. So in addition to the no. of new people downloading the app, Uber would want to track in the no. of rides being booked, the no. of riders who return and rebook, and the frequency with which they are booking new rides.

Cases:

• Inman News: (Website traffic * Email conversion rate * Active user rate * Conversion to paid subscriber) + Retained subscribers + Resurrected subscribers = Subscriber revenew growth
• eBay: Number of sellers listing items * Number of listed items * Number of buyers * Number of successful transactions = Gross merchandise volume growth
• Amazon: Vertical expansion * Product inventory per vertical * Traffic per product pace * Conversion to purchase * Average purchase value * Repeat purchase behavior = Revenue growth
  

Levers:

• Uber: number of drivers & number of riders
• Yelp: numbers of business reviewed and the numbers of reviews for each
• Facebook: amount of users shared by users & the time spent looking through the News Feed & the results in more time spent browsing it
  

Choose a north star
Before jumping into a high-tempo process, it’s vital for your team to identify and measure a North Star Metric (NSM).

Identify the actions that correlate most directly to users experiencing the core value of your product.

Develop dashboards to report only the most important metrics that map to your growth levers. Present information in a way that is actionable. Use ratios


Do Cohort analysis for deeper insights
Divide your customers or users into distinctive groups by a common trait (days months, area)

Case: Twitter

• Based on monthly retention rate, they found that those who visited at least 7 tiimes in one month were retained in the next month at 90 - 100 percent.
• Then by dividing users into 3 cohorts: core users (at least 7 times one month; 20%); casual users (less often); cold users (never came back after a first visit).
• They they conducted a correlation analysis, looking for similarities of behavior within one group of users that are not found in other groups. -> core users follow more than 30 users -> 30 is the tipping point
• Those who were being followed by just a third of those they followed were the ones who became loyal users. -> then they found the reasons by interviewing users: Twitter seemed like a news site otherwise.
  

Testing At High Tempo


Learning more by learning faster. More experiments, the more you learn.

                               
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Stage 1: analyze
By understanding more about your customers and how they interact with your product, you will begin to identify opportunities for growth experiments.

Start by diving into the initial wave of users you’ve acquired since launching your product. Separate the engaged users from the inactive ones. Sean and Morgan recommend asking three broad questions with additional detailed questions that help you dive deeper for each one.

Questions to guide analysis:
- What are my best customers’ behaviors?

• What features do they use?
• What screens in the app do they visit?
• How often do they open the app?
• What items do they buy?
• What is their average order size?
• What time of day do they shop and on which days?
  

- What are the characteristics of my best customers?

• What sources were they acquired from? ad, promotions emal or other place?
• What devices do they use?
• What is their demographic background, including age, income, and more?
• Where do they live?
• How close are they to the store or other stores?
• What other apps do they use?
  

- What events cause users to abandon the product?

• What screens have the highest exit rates?
• Are there bugs that are preventing users from taking a particular action?
• How are the products priced relative to other services?
• What actions don't they take that users who purchase do?
• What is their path through the app, and how much time do they spend in the app before they abandon it?
  

These questions should be looked at from both a quantitative and qualitative perspective. While an analyst can work on identifying trends in the data, a marketing expert should interview and survey your customers. Getting qualitative feedback will likely expose your own blind spots, inspire new ideas, and help guide research into quantitative user data.

By analyzing the data up front, you’ll go into the ideation step of the process armed with the data to create ideas for experimentation that have clear hypotheses and supporting evidence.

Stage 2: ideate
Ideas are the leading input for growth. If you don’t have ideas going into the process, there’s a lesser chance your team will make an impact on growth because there’s less to test and learn.

Try brainstorming with other people in your company. By gathering members of your team and asking “how do we solve this problem?” or “how do we meet this objective?” you’ll find that unique ways to solve a problem will arise and they will likely be more feasible since multiple stakeholders are involved.

A good idea should explain how it contributes to a current growth objective. For example, if your team is focusing on improving activation of new users, your team should be contributing ideas that are aimed to improve that metric.

Idea template
- Idea name: brief, limit under 50 characters
- Idea description: Lines of an executive summary. Who, what, where, why and how.

• Who is being targeted: all visitors, new users only, returning users or users from a particular traffic source?
• What is going to be created? new marketing copy or a new feature?
• Where will the new copy or feature be implemented: Will it be on the app's home screen or elsewhere?
• When will it appear during the customer's use? On the landing page?
• Why: rational
• How: a recommendation of the type of test to be done? A/B test, or new feature to be built, or a new ad campaign to be launched
  

- Hypothesis: expected cause and effect
- Metrics to be measured


Stage 3: prioritize (The ICE store)
- Impact: How much of an impact will this idea have if it’s successful?

• “You might think that only ideas that are very high impact are worthy of being submitted, but remember that a team should be selecting a mix of potentially high-impact experiments, which will generally require more work, and some that are easier to implement but also have a good, if not great, chance of producing meaningful results.”
  

- Confidence: How confident are you that this idea will work?

• “This rating should be based just on conjecture, but on empirical evidence of some kind, whether from data analysis, review of industry benchmarks, published case studies, or knowledge of previous experiments.”
  

- Ease: How easy is it to implement this idea?

• “The ease score both provides the growth team a reality check about overly ambitious ideas and helps identify some ‘low-hanging-fruit’ tests to run each time through the growth hacking process.”
  

Each member of the team should use the guide of the ICE score to then nominate a set number of ideas leading into the team’s weekly growth meeting. Here at GrowthHackers, we each nominate two ideas every week.

The ideas nominated that week are then presented by each person in the growth meeting. The team concludes the meeting with which ideas will be moved into the Up Next queue where the chosen ideas are then prepared for testing.


Stage 4: test
In this step of the process, the outputs of the growth meeting are put into motion. To keep organized, the “Up Next queue” represents all tests that need preparation. This is where ideas should be assigned to different members of the team to move forward.

Once the experiments are ready to go, the growth lead will send a notification around the company that they are being launched so that there are no surprises for other teams also working on the product. If roadblocks to launching certain experiments are encountered, the team member in charge must inform the growth lead right away so that other experiments in their Up Next queue can be considered for deployment in their place.

Each test should then be analyzed and measured against its hypothesis. The analyst will need to report whether the idea worked, didn’t work, or was inconclusive. Regardless of the outcome, it’s important for the analyst or growth lead to share a test summary that includes the lessons learned from a qualitative perspective as well as any supporting data.

Back to stage 1: analysis and learning


The results should be written up in a test summary:

• The name & description of the test: variants used and the target customers
• The type of test run: product function, change to marketing copy on a website page or screen in a mobile app, a creative test or a new marketing tactic deployed?
• Features it impacted
• Key metrics
• Test timing, including start and end dates
• The hypothesis of the test and the results, including original ICE score, sample sizes, statistical confidence and statistical power
• Potential confounding issues, such as the time of year the test was run, or if there were other promotions that may have skewed visitor behavior
• The conclusions drawn
  

All completed tests should be stored in a central knowledge base that everyone on the growth team can access at any time. It’s important to keep a record of these tests so that new employees can get up to speed on what’s been tested to date, and so that anyone on the team can easily search results and consider variations to what’s already been tested. Which takes us full-circle to the ideation step of the process. - Slack, email, google doc?

                               
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The growth meeting
The growth meeting is held on Tuesdays. On  Monday, the members check in on experiments in progress to identify any that can be concluded and review:

• look at the number of experiments successfully launched and compare it to the velocity goal of the team
• confer with the data analyst to update all of the key metrics the're following so that she can brief the team about them, perhaps distributing reports
• gather the data about any tests that were concluded
• conduct a high-level assessment of the previous week's activity and results, including a summary of findings about both the positive and negative effects on growth discovered from the experiments
• compile this information and include it with the meeting agenda
  

Meeting consists of:
- 15 minutes: metrics review and update focus area

• Key positive factors
• Key negative factors
• Growth focus area
  

- 10 minutes: review last week's testing activity

• Tempo: compare number of experiments with the team's tempo goal
• How many tests were not launched in the last week
  

- 15 minutes: key lessons learned from analyzed experiments
- 15 minutes: select growth tests for current cycle

                               
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- 5 minutes: check growth of idea pipeline

The Growth Hacking Playbook

                               
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Hacking Acquisition


These are the three most reliable paths companies can take to scale customer acquisition. But doing more than one of them at a time is next to impossible.

The trick is to figure out which kind works best for your own product type:

• Viral – Think of Dropbox. You grow primarily through other people referring you to their friends, family, or colleagues.
• Sticky –  Think of Crazy Egg. You create an irresistible experience that keeps people around as long as possible (and thus, paying you more and more).
• Paid – Think of Groupon. You spend $50 to acquire a customer who will eventually be worth $500 to your business.
  

                               
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Prioritizing Distribution Channels

                               
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Hacking Activation


Creating a funnel report

                               
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Desire - Friction = Conversion rate

                               
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The power of positive friction
Once people take an action, no matter how small, as long as the experience wasn't onerous, they are more inclined to take any action in the future.


Optimize the NUX (new user experience)

The art of questionnaire


Users are likely to give feedback in the website.

Common types of notification triggers:

• Account creation
• Purchase messages
• Reactivation campaign
• New feature announcement
• Top user incentives
• Activity or status change
  

Hacking Retention


Offer rewards both tangible and experimential


- Brand ambassador programs

• Deisgnating members as high-status users -> social recognition
• Cases: Yelp Elite Squad
  

- Recognition of achievements

• Cases: Medium sends emails to users when an artical they public receives 50 or 100 recommendations
  

- Customization of the relationship

• Machine learning is a good way.
• Cases: Amazon can extract a customer's information about user's preferences.
  

Example:

                               
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• Referred to book: 'Hooked'
  

Hacking Monetization


Using data and algorithms to customize offerings to customers' wants and needs:

                               
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For instance, the intersection size in the Jaccard index is how many people buy both A and B together, while the union is how many people bought either A and B independently.

Pricing

• At what price point does [your product] become too expensive that you'd never consider purchasing it?
• At what price point does [your product] start to become expensive, but you'd still consider purchasing it?
• At what price point does [your product] start to become a really good deal?
• At what price point does [your product] start to become too cheap that you'd question the quality of it?
  

Pricing relativity


Users' decisions about the price they would like to pay are affected by the set of options they have to choose from.

                               
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Consumer psychology

• The principle of reciprocity: giving before asking for a commitment to purchase
  

• The principle of commitment and consistency
• The principle of social proof
• The principle of authority
• The principle of liking: People buy more when a product is recommended by people they like.
  

• The principle of scarcity
  

A Virtuous Growth Cycle


Never stop!!!

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作者: 春浅    时间: 16-10-2018 10:13
虽然我英语很差劲
不过我也知道，这一看就是篇精品读书笔记~
慢慢写来
这里是自由散漫的一角书屋
有米雪/蜻蜓博才热情
小黑接班人嬉笑善良暗藏学识文雅
熊猫大师军事历史专家
K妈一如既往阳光灿烂无以复加
毒兄十足杂家笑点担当
还有偶尔冒泡的新人写手
在墨村的各位小伙伴们
......

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 10:19

春浅 发表于 16-10-2018 11:13
虽然我英语很差劲
不过我也知道，这一看就是篇精品读书笔记~
慢慢写来

厉害了……
一出口就不同凡响……
我这白话水平要向大家多多学习……

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 16-10-2018 10:24

春浅 发表于 16-10-2018 11:13
虽然我英语很差劲
不过我也知道，这一看就是篇精品读书笔记~
慢慢写来

还有才名远扬的岭南浅公子，学识修养俱佳英文专业年版
有趣的文艺旧时光伯爵茶，美丽阳光的安娜，雅儒低调的美食家
懂好多古典八卦的拖拉拉，读书大牛阿诺，最最可爱的Cherry
等等等等

另外，偷偷透露一下，高手Caesar也即将出手

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 10:39

MICHELLE07 发表于 16-10-2018 11:24
还有才名远扬的岭南浅公子，学识修养俱佳英文专业年版
有趣的文艺旧时光伯爵茶，美丽阳光的安娜，雅儒低 ...

啊哈哈 期待认识各路大神！

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作者: 5years    时间: 16-10-2018 10:44


太厉害了，太厉害了。

我脑子明显不够用了。

几位大侠的古体诗，我只有看的份。

武侠翻译成英语，我还凑合着能看。

这电脑黑客又来了，还是英文的。

留着慢慢消化吧。

谢谢楼主分享。

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作者: OZCherry    时间: 16-10-2018 10:45
请接受我的膝盖、双手还有脑门儿（瑜伽大拜式）
这么长的英文你都能写出来，我要读下来都费劲我晚上好好拜读啊~
这么详细的读书笔记，应该可以算是原书缩写了吧？想听听你写读书笔记的思路。是把重要内容摘抄出来？还是用自己的话复述？或者更高level上的总结提炼？你这是要把书过好几遍才能写得出来吧？问题比较多，很希望能跟你学习

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 10:54

OZCherry 发表于 16-10-2018 11:45
请接受我的膝盖、双手还有脑门儿（瑜伽大拜式）
这么长的英文你都能写出来，我要读下来都费劲我晚 ...

我这读书笔记是这样的，因为我是管图书馆借书，所以很多我希望日后不会忘记的内容我都会写下来。

- 对于工具、管理、互联网类等等书，一般细节比较丰富，因为对于工作和学习有帮助，会是自己的话复述 + 原文摘录 + 原文要点重新梳理。
- 对于人物传记、哲学、历史等等类别，会是高level的复述 + 原文摘录。

一般是第一遍读精读，随便敲一些重点内容。第二遍，一边读一边‘抄’+写。

这样未来我只需要看我自己的笔记，不需要再看书了~~

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 10:57

5years 发表于 16-10-2018 11:44
太厉害了，太厉害了。

我脑子明显不够用了。

写不了诗和散文…… 只能写写笔记…… 哈哈

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作者: yearshappy    时间: 16-10-2018 12:01
Never stop, form an idea to a framework, from a small business to an international corporation.
The company has to work hard as well smart to achieve and sustain a continuous growth. Don't they? The experts from various fields, the weekly meetings, the consumer surveys .
A great job, Summer. It's my first time to read something in the business field.

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 13:38

yearshappy 发表于 16-10-2018 13:01
Never stop, form an idea to a framework, from a small business to an international corporation.
The ...

Exactly! The company has to work really hard to grow, so do we.

Thank you so much for your support! I'll keep reading and try to share more. lol

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 16-10-2018 18:03
Thanks Summer for your nice work! I’ll take it as my 2018 CPD

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 16-10-2018 18:11
第一，格式整洁
第二，语言规范
第三，内容到位
这一篇可以作范本
认同你的阅读和笔记方法，
我近年来读对生活和工作有帮助的书不多，所以笔记是更high level 的复述，加入很多原创，比较“浪漫”
你说得太对了，以后只要看笔记就可以了（偷笑）

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 20:13

MICHELLE07 发表于 16-10-2018 19:11
第一，格式整洁
第二，语言规范
第三，内容到位

其实我羡慕能够写出浪漫文字的亲们~ 哈哈
向大家学习 各种类型都看一些 可以换换脑子~~

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作者: farmerg    时间: 16-10-2018 20:35
第四 图文并茂
第五 题材新颖

相信你会越写越好的，这个可以拿来交MBA的作业

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作者: 春浅    时间: 16-10-2018 21:02

MICHELLE07 发表于 16-10-2018 11:24
还有才名远扬的岭南浅公子，学识修养俱佳英文专业年版
有趣的文艺旧时光伯爵茶，美丽阳光的安娜，雅儒低 ...

伯爵茶，美食家
我都不知道是哪个

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 16-10-2018 21:05

春浅 发表于 16-10-2018 22:02
伯爵茶，美食家
我都不知道是哪个

春版，美食家就在这个楼里！
伯爵茶每天都来书屋的。。。

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 16-10-2018 21:15

farmerg 发表于 16-10-2018 21:35
第四 图文并茂
第五 题材新颖

哈哈哈 MBA作业！ 这么虎~~~

我会加油哒

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 17-10-2018 10:09

OZCherry 发表于 16-10-2018 11:45
请接受我的膝盖、双手还有脑门儿（瑜伽大拜式）
这么长的英文你都能写出来，我要读下来都费劲我晚 ...

前几天大家说到碳基生命被硅基生命代替的趋势，这几乎是近年来各界的“共识”。

姑且假设生化人是下一个进化物种，科技和自然高度结合，知识传播、感情交流会出现什么局面？
我们其实早已不仅仅是传统的“自然人” 。

首先，社交网络上的虚拟形象，成了每个人的附加存在，这个虚拟对现实的影响越来越大。

其次，人们对科技的依赖，使智能机器成了我们的另一副身体，帮助我们看，听，表达自己。
利用得好的，如虎添翼，但也可能被机器牵引，迷失或堕落。

最后是重点，智能和意识的“外部储存”。人的大脑为什么厉害？因为容量大，反应迅速，能处理复杂问题
所以我们一直相信存在脑子里的才最方便，并且可以不断衍生。

传统的非人肉读书笔记，记在纸上，相比现代的工具，慢，没有生命力。所以原创可贵，引用可耻
工具改变人类。信息庞大，发展迅速，借助工具吸收，处理后存在大脑，大脑越来越饱和，不堪重负。

如果把这个处理后的信息放在电子储存设备里，和大脑链接的关键字是：我知道它在哪里，为什么这么去理解这些信息，重新被问，依然答得上来。
其它细节就交给机器，缓解大脑空间。一旦需要，立刻调出来，包括在面试中，会议中，与人聊天中，我们已经在依赖外部储存。

人生不是闭卷考试。

背诵，一部分演变为数据调用技能。对他人知识的引用，界线变得模糊。
传统的洁身自好，字字原创，做不到了，也不知是否必要？

总之，在某几个夜晚，静心读一些书，认真体会，理解，表达自己的思想，码在电子空间里、你随时可以调用的地方。
这就是你的“外部大脑存储”，硅基生命和碳基生命融洽共处的雏形。

偷闲，胡乱记之，是此时的思想杂念。

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 17-10-2018 10:47

MICHELLE07 发表于 17-10-2018 11:09
前几天大家说到碳基生命被硅基生命代替的趋势，这几乎是近年来各界的“共识”。

姑且假设生化人是下 ...

这让我想到了Homo Deus里面的一些观点。

意识和大脑主功能的分离。大脑负责算法执行，并充当单处理器的功能。人类的发展只是处理器节点的增加与运行速率提升的过程。

未来我们都会成为数据主义的追随者。我们将所有的数据存储在外部网络。而这个数据主义会不依赖于人类发展。

嗯，这么说的话，我一直在为数据网络与数据主义 做贡献。。。。。

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作者: MICHELLE07    时间: 17-10-2018 10:50

大力Summer 发表于 17-10-2018 11:47
这让我想到了Homo Deus里面的一些观点。

意识和大脑主功能的分离。大脑负责算法执行，并充当单处理器 ...

知音！
不过你的语言更硬科技一些

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作者: 大力Summer    时间: 17-10-2018 10:59

MICHELLE07 发表于 17-10-2018 11:50
知音！
不过你的语言更硬科技一些

哈哈哈哈 我好希望我能会说一些 浪漫的语言~~

我的大脑就是 强逻辑的那种…… 一点都不柔……

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