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发表于 4-1-2012 18:50:55 | 只看该作者
有钱还是买房保险
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发表于 20-4-2012 13:02:32 | 只看该作者
原帖由 新澳之旅 于 7-9-2011 10:10 发表
和大家分享一下,为什么在澳洲税务那么重要。我知道这里很多人都是国内移民过来,在国内也有不少的经验,国内的工资体系包括三金都是发工资的时候已经帮你自动扣好的。没有自己报税一说。但是在澳洲,我知道美国也是 ...


严重同意lZ的观点,税是非常个性化的,你分享了很多心得,让我从另一面生动地了解澳洲的税收,长登准备中,学习中!
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 楼主| 发表于 21-4-2012 13:47:41 | 只看该作者
最好的学习的就是一个叫TAX PACK

http://www.ato.gov.au/individual ... 0279379.htm&m=0
这里下,特别是国内过来的同学最好读几遍,如果有啥不同,可以发在这里,我保证回答

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发表于 23-4-2012 18:57:49 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主。 在taxpack supplement   第4页关于partnerships and trusts

原话:
Did you receive or were you entitled to
1. income or a losses from a parnership
2. income from a trust (including a managed fund)
3.a credit for amounts of tax paid on or amounts withheld from partnership or trust income
4. share of the national rental affordability scheme tax offest
5.or did you have an interest in a trust that make a loss from primary production activities?

请问楼主:
第3点如何理解credit for amounts of tax paid?
第4点整句如何理解?
第5点实际要讲的是否是“虽然trust是亏损,但你从中获得的利息依然是你应税收入的一部分”?

谢谢!

[ 本帖最后由 alicezeng 于 23-4-2012 18:00 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 25-4-2012 12:29:50 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主。 在taxpack supplement   第4页关于partnerships and trusts

原话:
Did you receive or were you entitled to
1. income or a losses from a parnership
2. income from a trust (including a managed fund)
3.a credit for amounts of tax paid on or amounts withheld from partnership or trust income
4. share of the national rental affordability scheme tax offest
5.or did you have an interest in a trust that make a loss from primary production activities?

请问楼主:
第3点如何理解credit for amounts of tax paid?
第4点整句如何理解?
第5点实际要讲的是否是“虽然trust是亏损,但你从中获得的利息依然是你应税收入的一部分”?

第3点如何理解credit for amounts of tax paid?
这个CREDIT 也许是他们给你先扣的税,这个税可以填在里头,属于多退少补的情况,根据你自己的税率。不过这个情况很少发生,正常都是他们分给你然后你自己年终报税。所以可以不理

第4点整句如何理解?

The national rental affordability scheme (NRAS) is designed to encourage large-scale investment in affordable housing. The NRAS offers tax and cash incentives to providers of new dwellings on the condition that they are rented to low and moderate income households at 20% below market rates.
The NRAS offers annual incentives for a period of ten years. The incentive comprises:
        a Federal Government contribution in the form of a refundable tax offset or payment to the value of $6,000 per dwelling per year in the first year of operation of the scheme
        a state or territory contribution in the form of direct financial support or an in-kind contribution to the value of at least $2,000 per dwelling per year in the first year of operation of the scheme.
The incentive will be indexed in line with the rental component of the consumer price index.
The Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs (FaHCSIA) is responsible for administering and implementing the scheme.

http://www.ato.gov.au/content/00179876.htm
这个就是背景资料,我至今还没有见过人接触到这个部分。所以如果你要详细了解,可以继续发帖子问,或者上那个链接。

第5点实际要讲的是否是“虽然trust是亏损,但你从中获得的利息依然是你应税收入的一部分”?

Trust 如果亏损了,你是不可能有啥利益放入你的应收税的。因为他们只分配盈利,只有partnership可以分配亏损和收益

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alicezeng + 50 谢谢楼主的解释。这个贴卧龙藏虎哦。

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 楼主| 发表于 25-4-2012 12:35:45 | 只看该作者
原帖由 小波 于 4-1-2012 17:50 发表
有钱还是买房保险



我做过的至今最牛的20套投资房。不过夫妻现金流强大,工资收入加起来至少40万左右。

换我可以弄更多的房子
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发表于 25-4-2012 12:46:50 | 只看该作者
原帖由 alicezeng 于 23-4-2012 17:57 发表
谢谢楼主。 在taxpack supplement   第4页关于partnerships and trusts

原话:
Did you receive or were you entitled to
1. income or a losses from a parnership
2. income from a trust (including a m ...


第三点我就遇到过,我老婆每个季度要先缴税。
trust最方便之处就是每年利益可以自由在家庭里分配,你那年赚得多就少给自己分一点,所以税率就低。
还有,孩子越多免税分给他们的就越多,随着他们年龄增长还越来越多。
还有,一般和公司一起使用可以控制风险。
还有,炒股也可用trust来降低税率。
还有,。。。。。。。。。。。。。
还有,。。。。。。。。。。。。。

如果你接触到trust报税,最好找个会计帮你做。好会计不光帮你报税,还会教你怎么"LAN“,怎么在平时生活中“操作”

说了这么多,别光看不给分 ,没动力下次就不说了。

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新澳之旅 + 50 很多问题都要向你讨教。

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发表于 26-4-2012 12:57:07 | 只看该作者
还是在partnerships and trusts 部分
有好几处地方提到primary production activities 或primary production.是不是指经营范围内?谢谢楼主。
如:
Did you have an interest in a trust that made a loss from primary production activities?

the amount of any primary production income or loss
and the amount of any primary production income or loss
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发表于 26-4-2012 20:03:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 新澳之旅 于 25-4-2012 11:35 发表



我做过的至今最牛的20套投资房。不过夫妻现金流强大,工资收入加起来至少40万左右。

换我可以弄更多的房子


哈哈,牛人很多。
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发表于 26-4-2012 20:05:20 | 只看该作者
原帖由 lengyi3211 于 25-4-2012 11:52 发表


今年2011-2012的政策变了,trust中minority 已经没有免税的福利了。


其实上次已经问过他,他说我的情况不受影响,改天再叫他确认一下。
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 楼主| 发表于 28-4-2012 09:57:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 circleyue 于 25-4-2012 11:46 发表


第三点我就遇到过,我老婆每个季度要先缴税。
trust最方便之处就是每年利益可以自由在家庭里分配,你那年赚得多就少给自己分一点,所以税率就低。
还有,孩子越多免税分给他们的就越多,随着他们年龄增长还越来 ...



你说的是PAYGI,一般这里正常的大部分的上班族还是不常遇到
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 楼主| 发表于 28-4-2012 09:59:58 | 只看该作者
原帖由 circleyue 于 26-4-2012 19:05 发表


其实上次已经问过他,他说我的情况不受影响,改天再叫他确认一下。



这个最好确认一下,如果有未成年放里头,过去一般都是第一个分配收益,3300。

能分享一下,为啥你的情况,未成年不受影响呢?好奇

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 楼主| 发表于 28-4-2012 10:03:45 | 只看该作者
原帖由 alicezeng 于 26-4-2012 11:57 发表
还是在partnerships and trusts 部分
有好几处地方提到primary production activities 或primary production.是不是指经营范围内?谢谢楼主。
如:
Did you have an interest in a trust that made a loss from p ...



是的,一般primary production多是指农业相关的。
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发表于 28-4-2012 11:51:42 | 只看该作者
楼主很厉害,我改明儿找你报税吧
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发表于 30-4-2012 18:11:35 | 只看该作者

回复 #41 新澳之旅 的帖子

Lucy, I am David Sun.请问怎么通过网络来管理自己的super阿? 有详细的介绍吗 谢谢
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原帖由 新澳之旅 于 28-4-2012 08:59 发表



这个最好确认一下,如果有未成年放里头,过去一般都是第一个分配收益,3300。

能分享一下,为啥你的情况,未成年不受影响呢?好奇


问过了,只要政府budget通过,这个就没了。政府是穷疯了。
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发表于 2-5-2012 14:33:20 | 只看该作者
请问楼主,PAYGI 是什么单词的简称?谢谢!
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发表于 2-5-2012 14:48:25 | 只看该作者
看到Personal Serives Income 部分了,知道PAYG 是Pay as you go.
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 楼主| 发表于 7-5-2012 10:11:16 | 只看该作者
原帖由 cdutboy20 于 30-4-2012 17:11 发表
Lucy, I am David Sun.请问怎么通过网络来管理自己的super阿? 有详细的介绍吗 谢谢



http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... 7978&highlight=

看看这个帖子,里面有详细的分析。如果还有疑问的话,继续发帖子问。
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发表于 7-5-2012 17:59:47 | 只看该作者
请问LZ,如果有税号,除了银行利息收入外(利息金额10000以下)无其他收入的话,银行已经代扣的利息税可以退回来么?如果什么收入都没有的话,是零申报呢?还是干脆就不用报了
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 楼主| 发表于 7-5-2012 21:28:42 | 只看该作者
原帖由 lengyi3211 于 29-4-2012 22:54 发表


呵呵,如果上班族中有多于2000澳币以上的投资收益而且在当年的个人退税中是需要缴税的话税务局会根据你投资收益的多少给你PAYG的,简单来说,就是提前交税,税务局防止你到财务年底有钱先花掉而没钱交税了。


还有一种情况就是你欠税务局要交的税不交超过500块,也是这样的情况。

我说一般上班族不用管的意思是,其实他们会通知你们如果他们认为你需要每个季度提前交税。
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 楼主| 发表于 7-5-2012 21:33:47 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Xavy 于 7-5-2012 16:59 发表
请问LZ,如果有税号,除了银行利息收入外(利息金额10000以下)无其他收入的话,银行已经代扣的利息税可以退回来么?如果什么收入都没有的话,是零申报呢?还是干脆就不用报了



如果你通知了银行(在你开户的时候或者在其他的时间)税号那他们会把利息给你不会替你扣税。

如果你有10000万左右的利息,或者其他的,自己报就可以了。但是要和银行确认好到底多少利息。如果是多家银行,就去问多家银行,最好有书面证明。如果你是找会计师做,不用,他们可以有自己的系统知道。但是这么简单就不用花钱了,没有必要。如果没有告诉被扣了重税,无所谓,如果就很少的收入(1,2万左右),全部可以退回来税。

如果啥收入都没有,原则上不用报,但是报了没有关系,也许其他的福利部门会向你要证据。证明你的收入。所以无所谓,自己决定。

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 楼主| 发表于 9-5-2012 10:07:49 | 只看该作者
http://www.watoday.com.au/money/ ... 20120508-1y9lh.html

这篇不错。当然四大还是要考虑各自能拿到的折扣。

还有anz还没有宣布自己到底要降多少。现在我觉得anz的竞争力最弱
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发表于 5-6-2012 17:21:17 | 只看该作者
“另一個稱為 “過渡性退休”的策略則會很適合打算在55歲後進入半退休狀態的人士, 這種策略會將自己部份的人工放進退休金內,然後從另一個配給退休金戶口拿出部份資 金作日常開支。這策略可令您保持收入之餘,由於將稅前的人工供進退休金只扣除15%的款項,而從退休金戶口內取出的資金亦享有頗高的稅務優惠,故一來一回 下慳減了不少的稅款。另外若這個策略運用得宜,亦可幫助他們的退休金金額按年遞增,可謂一舉三得。”
从别处看到的文字,不是很理解。有明白的同学吗?谢谢!

[ 本帖最后由 alicezeng 于 5-6-2012 16:23 编辑 ]
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发表于 5-6-2012 23:59:17 | 只看该作者
原帖由 alicezeng 于 5-6-2012 16:21 发表
“另一個稱為 “過渡性退休”的策略則會很適合打算在55歲後進入半退休狀態的人士, 這種策略會將自己部份的人工放進退休金內,然後從另一個配給退休金戶口拿出部份資 金作日常開支。這策略可令您保持收入之餘,由於將 ...

this is 'transition to retirement'TTR
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发表于 6-6-2012 02:37:34 | 只看该作者
我跟会计聊过退休金的问题,得出结论这个东西最坑爹,等个20-30年后,人口老龄严重,估计要到70岁才能拿了(现在是67?),
拿得到估计也没很多年享用了,加上身体可能不允许你花很多(吃不多,玩不动,留给后代还要抽税?)
政府很聪明,“鼓励”你赚的最好都存进去,“补贴”财政空缺。
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发表于 6-6-2012 12:22:05 | 只看该作者
对于工薪阶层来说,SUPER不失为一个合法避税的途径。澳洲不像国内,国内可以通过私人账户,IIT漏税的一大把。
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发表于 7-6-2012 13:44:31 | 只看该作者
Distributions from trusts (including managed funds) can include two components that have CGT consequences:
distributions of trust income where the trust’s net income for tax purposes includes a net capital gain, and distributions of non-assessable amounts.
You need to know whether your distribution includes these amounts. To find out, check the distribution, year‑end or annual statement from the trust.

The statement should also show which method the trust used to calculate the capital gains included in the trust’s net capital gain. There are three methods of calculating capital gains:
indexation
discount
‘other’.
You must use the same method as the trust to calculate your own net capital gain.
这里的3种方法:indexation, discount, other
楼主,可否给科普一下,谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 28-6-2012 00:56:19 | 只看该作者
原帖由 alicezeng 于 7-6-2012 12:44 发表
Distributions from trusts (including managed funds) can include two components that have CGT consequences:
distributions of trust income where the trust’s net income for tax purposes includes a net  ...


才看到不好意思。不用普及了。现在就一种可以用那就是discount,以前的那几种早就不可以用了。

所谓的折扣就是如果你的资产,这个包括股票,房地产等等的所有可以买卖的资产,如果要交税的情况下,持有超过1年以上,就可以有50%的capital gain discount.

比如你买入价,$10, 卖出价$20,你在这个中间获得了10块的收益,并且你持有一年以上,那这个收益就是5块作为记录你当年的应收税额里头。

如果不明白可以再问
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 楼主| 发表于 28-6-2012 00:57:38 | 只看该作者
Q 1

6 months rule and example

If you acquire a new home before you dispose of your old one, both dwellings are treated as your main residence for up to six months if:

·         the old dwelling was your main residence for a continuous period of at least three months in the 12 months before you disposed of it   

·         you did not use it to produce assessable income in any part of that 12 months when it was not your main residence, and   

·         The new dwelling becomes your main residence.

If you dispose of the old dwelling within six months of acquiring the new one, both dwellings are exempt for the whole period between when you acquire the new one and dispose of the old one.



Adrian’s understanding is right.  



Example from ATO



Exemption for both homes



Jill and Norman bought their new home under a contract that was settled in January and moved in immediately. They sold their old home under a contract that was settled in April. Both the old and new homes are treated as their main residence for the period January to April, even though they did not live in the old home during that period.



Q 2



First scenario


If it takes longer than six months to dispose of your old home, both homes are exempt only for the last six months before you dispose of the old one. If you decide to claim the main residence exemption for your new home from the time you first move in, then you obtain only a part exemption when a capital gains tax (CGT) event happens in relation to your old home.



That is an example from ATO



Example



Part exemption for a first home

Jeneen and John bought their first home under a contract that was settled on 1 January 1999 and moved in immediately. It was their main residence until they bought another home under a contract that was entered into on 2 November 2008 and settled on 1 January 2009.

They retained the old home after moving into the new one on 1 January 2009, but did not use the old one to produce income. They sold the old home under a contract that was settled on 1 October 2009. They owned this home for a total period of 3,927 days.

Both homes are treated as their main residence for the period 1 April 2009 to 1 October 2009, the last six months that Jeneen and John owned their first home. Therefore, if they do not choose to claim exemption for the entire period of ownership for their first home, it is treated as their main residence only for the period before settlement of their new home and during the last six months before settlement of the sale of the old home.

The 91 days from 1 January 2009 to 31 March 2009, when the old home was not their main residence, would then be taken into account in calculating the proportion of their capital gain that is taxable. In this case:



Taxable proportion
=
Days not main residence
Total days owned
=
   91  
3,927




Because they entered into the contract to acquire their old home before 11.45am (by legal time in the ACT) on 21 September 1999 and entered into the contract to sell it after that time, and they held it for at least 12 months, Jeneen and John can use either the indexation or the discount method to calculate their capital gain.



If it takes longer than six months to dispose of your old home, you may get an exemption for the old home for the period in excess of the six months by choosing to treat it as your main residence for that period under the 'continuing main residence status after dwelling ceases to be your main residence' rule. If you do this, you get only a partial exemption when you dispose of your new home.



Second scenario



If Adrian uses his Mt Hawthorn to produce income, he can choose to treat it as his main residence for up to six years after cease living in it. If, as a result of this choice, the dwelling is fully exempt, the home first used to produce income rule does not apply.



ATO Examples as below:





If you are absent more than once during the period you own the home, the six year maximum period that you can treat it as your main residence while you use it to produce income applies separately to each period of absence.



Example



One period of absence of 10 years



Home ceases to be the main residence and is used to produce income for one period of six years

Lisa bought a house after 20 September 1985 but stopped using it as her main residence for the 10 years immediately before she sold it. During this period, she rents it out for six years and leaves it vacant for four years



Lisa chooses to treat the dwelling as her main residence for the period after she ceased living in it, so she disregards any capital gain or capital loss she makes on the sale of the dwelling. The maximum period the dwelling can continue to be her main residence while it is used to produce income is six years. However, while the house is vacant, the period is unlimited, which means the exemption applies for the whole 10 years. It doesn't matter whether the period during which the home is used to produce income is a single block of six years or several shorter periods, so long as the total period it was used to produce income was no more than six years.



Because the dwelling is fully exempt as a result of Lisa making this choice, the home first used to produce income rule does not apply.



Home used to produce income for more than one period totalling six years



In the 10-year period after Lisa stopped living in the dwelling she rented it out for three years, left it vacant for two years, rented it out for the next three years, then once more left it vacant for two years.



If she chooses to treat the dwelling as her main residence for the period after she stopped living in it, she again disregards any capital gain or capital loss she makes on selling it. This is because the period she used the home to produce income during each absence is not more than six years.



Example

Home ceases to be the main residence and is used to produce income for more than six years during a single period of absence

1 July 1993
Ian settled a contract to buy a home in Sydney on 0.9 hectares of land and used it as his main residence.

1 January 1995
Ian was posted, by his employer, to Brisbane and settled a contract to buy another home there.

1 January 1995 to 31 December 1999
Ian rented out his Sydney home during the period he was posted to Brisbane.

31 December 1999
Ian settled a contract to sell his Brisbane home and the tenant in his Sydney home left. Ian chose not to claim the main residence exemption on the sale of the Brisbane property, so he had to include the capital gain in his return for that year.

The period of five years from 1995 to 1999 is the first period the Sydney home was used to produce income for the purpose of the six-year test.

1 January 2000
Ian was posted by his employer from Brisbane to Melbourne for three years and settled a contract to buy a home in Melbourne. He did not return to his Sydney home at this time.

1 March 2000
Ian again rented out his Sydney home - this time for two years.

28 February 2002
The tenant of his Sydney home left.

The period of two years from 2000 to 2002 is the second period the Sydney home was used to produce income under the six-year test.

31 December 2002
Ian sold his home in Melbourne. Ian chose not to claim the main residence exemption on the sale of this property.

31 December 2003
Ian returned to his home in Sydney and it again became his main residence.

28 February 2011
Ian settled a contract to sell his Sydney home.



As Ian did not claim the main residence exemption for either of his Brisbane or Melbourne homes he is able to choose to treat the Sydney home as his main residence for the period after he stopped living in it. Ian claims the exemption for this property.



Ian cannot obtain the main residence exemption for the whole period of ownership of the Sydney home because the combined periods it was used to produce income (1 January 1995 to 31 December 1999 and 1 March 2000 to 28 February 2002) total more than six years.



As a result, the Sydney house is not exempt for the period it was used to produce income that exceeds the six-year period - that is, one year.



If the capital gain on the disposal of the Sydney home is $250,000, the amount of the gain that is taxable is calculated as follows:



Period of ownership of the Sydney home:

1 July 1993 to 28 February 2011
6,452 days


Periods the Sydney home was used to produce income after Ian ceased living in it:

1 January 1995 to 31 December 1999
1,826 days

1 March 2000 to 28 February 2002
     730 days

  
2,556 days


First six years the Sydney home was used to produce income:

1 January 1995 to 31 December 1999
1,826 days

1 March 2000 to 28 February 2001
    365 days

  
2,191 days


Income producing period exceeding six years after Ian ceased living in it:

2,556 - 2,191 = 365 days

Proportion of capital gain taxable in 2010-11

$250,000 X
  365
6,452
= $14,143




Because Ian entered into the contract to acquire the house before 11.45am (by legal time in the ACT) on 21 September 1999 and entered into the contract to sell it after that time, and owned it for at least 12 months, he can use either the indexation or the discount method to calculate his capital gain.



Note: 21 August 1996 importance
The home first used to produce income rule does not apply because the home was used by Ian to produce income before 21 August 1996.





Q 3 and Q 4

At the moment, I haven’t found clearly explanation regarding market replacement rule.

However, I found a good example from ATO website to prove when your house is partial exemption from CGT; the amount of CGT calculates the difference between the market value from the date you rent out and the market value at the time you sell it.  Therefore, Adrian doesn’t need to keep those receipts. It is not relevant to calculate capital gain.

There is the information from ATO.

Partial exemption

You may be eligible for a partial main residence exemption if:

the dwelling was your main residence for only part of the period you owned it
your partner or dependants have separate homes
you have used part of the property (either the dwelling or the land) to produce assessable income, or
the land is more than 2 hectares.
Example: Home becomes a rental property after 20 August 1996

Erin purchased a home on 0.9 hectares of land in July 2000 for $280,000. The home was her main residence until she moved into a new home on 1 August 2003.

On 2 August 2003, she started to rent out the old home. At that time, the market value of the old home was $450,000.

Erin wants the new home to be treated as her main residence from the date she moved into it.

On 14 April 2010, Erin sold the old home for $496,000. Erin is taken to have acquired the old home for $450,000 on 2 August 2003 and calculates her capital gain to be $46,000.

Because Erin is taken to have acquired the new home on 2 August 2003, and has held it for more than 12 months, she can use the discount method to calculate her capital gain. As Erin has no capital losses she includes a capital gain of $23,000 on her 2011 tax return.



Reference:

http://www.ato.gov.au/content/36887.htm

http://www.ato.gov.au/individual ... =/content/36888.htm

http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/ ... p;page=6#P189_12742
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